Agent G Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Speaking of kits we want... I'm still waiting for my full-detail 1/8 scale Daytona or Superbird. Right there with you on that one. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Right there with you on that one. G If we don't get it soon I'm going to start stomping my feet and getting really mad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent G Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Yup Huge hissy fit in the offing. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Yup Huge hissy fit in the offing. G You do not want to be in the same room when I go off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) From my experience, of course I have a fairly good idea--but I will decline to say even that, as I don't want to even hint at revealing confidential information (if a model company wants to add such information--that's their call, not mine to make!) Art I am just going to take a stab in the dark, and I could be wrong , but I am sure that the time between when you were as they say"in the business" and to current day, that things have changes, and the big one, the cost of doing business has gone up, so the numbers you "may" know, I wonder if they are still even accurate today?. Unless you have current percentage's ? Edited September 4, 2013 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Speaking of kits we want... I'm still waiting for my full-detail 1/8 scale Daytona or Superbird. Since we're dreaming in technicolour here... I want a new tool 1/24 Auburn Speedster, a Cord L-29, and a Mercer Raceabout. And a pony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 And a pony. Wish I had known. I just gave one away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Well I for one woulkd like to see a new tool kit of the M3 Lee Medium Tank. There I said it. I want one. Badly. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Since we're dreaming in technicolour here... I want a new tool 1/24 Auburn Speedster, a Cord L-29, and a Mercer Raceabout. And a pony. And I want a million dollars! Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 And I want a million dollars! Anyone? The cheque is the mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Since we're dreaming in technicolour here... I want a new tool 1/24 Auburn Speedster, a Cord L-29, and a Mercer Raceabout. And a pony. what color pony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LokisTyro Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 You can find a free pony on craigslist every now and then. But here you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 what color pony? My daughter says "Rainbow Dash!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelbuilder Mark Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I'm not asking for specific numbers, just roughly how much tire licensing is as a part of overall licensing fees for a given kit. 5% of the total? 10%? AND..,.,.,. ,would the additional cost potentially result in better/additional kits sales. How many times have you bought a kit for the rims, or the grill, or other parts. AND how many times have you not bought a kit just because it lacked something you deemed essential. SO, if the cost were 5% more, would it result in 5% better sales. I know this is being asked as a mute point, because I am sure someone in the decision making chain has already considered this, because companies like Mobius are certainly listening to groups like this forum, and even they are not yet doing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 what color pony? Candy blue, with flames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 AND..,.,.,. ,would the additional cost potentially result in better/additional kits sales. How many times have you bought a kit for the rims, or the grill, or other parts. AND how many times have you not bought a kit just because it lacked something you deemed essential. SO, if the cost were 5% more, would it result in 5% better sales. I know this is being asked as a mute point, because I am sure someone in the decision making chain has already considered this, because companies like Mobius are certainly listening to groups like this forum, and even they are not yet doing them. Before anything, let's consider how much of the retail price the manufacturer gets. Now, it's been my understanding that a 40% markup is standard for retailers, because they like to eat too. If this is so, and assuming a similar markup at the wholesale level, that would mean about 50% of the price at the store makes it to the manufacturer. It was mentioned earlier that someone like Chrysler wanted 8% of the retail price, so we're already down to 42%, and that's not covering whatever costs are involved in making that kit in the first place. It wouldn't take too many royalty deals like that to wipe out whatever profit is left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuzzed Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 but it was a slight toward Ben. Being a member on this forum that has sections for almost every kind of model with wheels he can answer a question and voice his opinion in this general section just as much as car guys ,nascar guys, or slot car guys.Maybe in "indian land" where you come from this section is only for car guys, Why not follow the rules and state full name and location while riding on your high horse? Why, pardon me, Kevin. Why not READ? My full name is and has always been on each and every one of my posts, along with my (given) club nickname (which stems from my last name). Point of fact : "Indian Land" is an un-incorporated area of South Carolina (just south of Charlotte, NC) in which I reside. The name stems from the fact that at one time, there were aboriginal Americans living in the area. I am not making this up. You can Google it, if you care to do some research. By the way, Ontario is a rather large province- where in Ontario, Canada do you reside? Ben actually mentioned first that this is a car forum and differentiated between it and the truck forums to which he also belongs. I didn't. Perhaps you should re-read ALL of the posts from ALL who did post concerning the types of models to which we were referring before you claim that I was on any type of horse. Now I smell a dead horse, so let's leave this one go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuzzed Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Indian Land, South Carolina is a real place. Indeed, it is. I live there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuzzed Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 When Andy Granitelli started offering STP decals at Indianapolis Motor Speedway in the early 1960's--he SOLD them, regardless of whether or not other race car sponsors or secondary sponsors gave their logo's away or not. I was there, saw and experienced that. "Free Advertising" does seem to have it's limits. Art Wow- I remember getting free STP decals at the local Shell station when I was a kid. I also wrote to the various speed equipment manufacturers and did get a lot of free decals that way. And just a few months ago, Vic Edelbrock was at Charlotte Motor Speedway (for the Autofair), celebrating his company's 75th anniversary by autographing hats and catalogs at no cost for the attendees(read:potential customers) and giving away commemorative pins. Business is a weird animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuzzed Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Well I for one woulkd like to see a new tool kit of the M3 Lee Medium Tank. There I said it. I want one. Badly. G A "like" option as on Facebook, would be good here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I am just going to take a stab in the dark, and I could be wrong , but I am sure that the time between when you were as they say"in the business" and to current day, that things have changes, and the big one, the cost of doing business has gone up, so the numbers you "may" know, I wonder if they are still even accurate today?. Unless you have current percentage's ? It's not been all that many years since I had to deal with licensing issues and royalty costs--within the last ten years. While numbers may have changed somewhat, I suspect that percentages haven't moved very much themselves. I still vividly remember, as product development for Johnny Lightning diecast cars, having to figure in not only the licensing costs, but also all the other tooling and production costs associated with that product line with every diecast model we created from scratch, as well as new versions of existing castings. It was there that I had to learn very quickly how easy it could be for a product to be "nickel and dimed" like crazy with licensing for not only the miniature car subject itself, but if any company's logos, even sponsorship decals on a race car where to be tampo-printed on it, could add up pretty quickly. Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 8/27/2013 at 9:21 AM, raildogg said: With all the "stuff" being done today, why not these things! 3- when are we going to get models of construction and farm tractors? Richard hasn't been logged into the forum for a few years now, but hopefully he's seen the numerous new tractor kits Revell and Heller have released over the last few years or so. I am not going to re-hash the debate this topic turned into, but I will admit I was very surprised to see all-new tractor kits, especially the number of unique kits which were actually released. Round2 has also reissued the Cat bulldozer, the IH Payhauler is due to be reissued soon, and I would expect if they have the John Deere backhoe molds, that kit will be reissued within the next year or two as well. Granted, they are not all-new models of construction equipment, but I would argue it's better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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