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As far as new stuff for 2015, I have zero insider info. One kit I'm surprised we haven't seen yet is a 1970 442 W-30 hardtop based off the Revell 1972 Hurst/Olds tooling. I believe they dropped both the H/O and Cutlass Supreme versions of that tool a couple years ago, and I'm sure they have this variation planned.

Heck, the H/O kit included the W-27 rear end, which I don't think was even available in 1972. All the mechanicals and chassis would carry over, I believe. Probably some of the interior, too (dash and steering wheel, at least). If they did it right, the bumpers and hoods for a 1970 hardtop would interchange with those from the 1972 convertible, which would allow people to create a 1972 hardtop and a 1970 convertible just by swapping a couple parts between kits.

Of course, with Revell's track record lately, I'm almost scared to see them bring out new kits of subjects I want.

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As far as new stuff for 2015, I have zero insider info. One kit I'm surprised we haven't seen yet is a 1970 442 W-30 hardtop based off the Revell 1972 Hurst/Olds tooling. I believe they dropped both the H/O and Cutlass Supreme versions of that tool a couple years ago, and I'm sure they have this variation planned.

I am surprised (well, maybe just personally disappointed) we haven't seen ANY '68-'72 A-body variations based on the '72 Cutlass tooling, but maybe it just wasn't a good seller.

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I am surprised (well, maybe just personally disappointed) we haven't seen ANY '68-'72 A-body variations based on the '72 Cutlass tooling, but maybe it just wasn't a good seller.

I've wondered about its salability too. Especially the Cutlass Supreme. I passed on the 4-4-2 because of the hood with the scoops. This hood was optional on the 4-4-2s, and I never cared for it. I wish they'd reissue the kit with the option of building it with the stock hood.

Scott

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I am surprised (well, maybe just personally disappointed) we haven't seen ANY '68-'72 A-body variations based on the '72 Cutlass tooling, but maybe it just wasn't a good seller.

I've wondered why they kitted that in the first place. I can think of at least a half-dozen more desirable subjects among the '64-72 A-bodies.

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I've wondered why they kitted that in the first place. I can think of at least a half-dozen more desirable subjects among the '64-72 A-bodies.

Like a '70 Chevelle SS? Market's kinda flooded on that one, with the 1/24 Monogram kit in the regular production cycle, AMT's '70, and the Revell SnapTite kit, too. A new kit of that car would be more than welcome, but would it actually sell enough units to justify the cost of all new tooling? Factor in that such a kit would relegate the 1/24 Monogram '70 to "Monogram Classic" kit status with their "around $15" price point, and Revell has three competing kits in their own kit lineup. Not ideal.

My guess is the margin for tooling up a new '64-'72 GM A-body kit and turning a comfortable profit is slim, and what we view as slam dunks are closer to 3/4-length-court, over-the-shoulder heaves.

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Like a '70 Chevelle SS? Market's kinda flooded on that one, with the 1/24 Monogram kit in the regular production cycle, AMT's '70, and the Revell SnapTite kit, too. A new kit of that car would be more than welcome, but would it actually sell enough units to justify the cost of all new tooling? Factor in that such a kit would relegate the 1/24 Monogram '70 to "Monogram Classic" kit status with their "around $15" price point, and Revell has three competing kits in their own kit lineup. Not ideal.

My guess is the margin for tooling up a new '64-'72 GM A-body kit and turning a comfortable profit is slim, and what we view as slam dunks are closer to 3/4-length-court, over-the-shoulder heaves.

Really? You think a new-tool '65 GTO wouldn't sell, or even a '67? How about any Skylark GS, '64-'67, or a '65 4-4-2? I'm not a huge fan of the '70-'72 GTOs but it's been a while since the old MPC '70 was out and I bet a new '70 would sell just fine. And I KNOW a '68 Chevelle would.

About the only thing I'd ever buy a '72 Olds for would be to use the chassis on my old JoHan '70.

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They could have done a '65 or '67 GTO years ago, they've had a '66 for nearly 20 years now?

Yup. And they could have been banking profits on them for years now, too.

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Really? You think a new-tool '65 GTO wouldn't sell, or even a '67? How about any Skylark GS, '64-'67, or a '65 4-4-2? I'm not a huge fan of the '70-'72 GTOs but it's been a while since the old MPC '70 was out and I bet a new '70 would sell just fine. And I KNOW a '68 Chevelle would.

The question wasn't if it would sell, but rather how well it would sell, or rephrased, would Revell sell enough '67 Pontiac GTO kits to justify the cost of new tooling? I say no, based partly on the existence of the MPC '67 GTO kit, and partly for other reasons. Same deal for the '65 GTO. AMT's kit already exists, so does Revell want to take the chance on tooling up an all new kit, only to have Round2 reissue their '65 GTO and take away half of the potential sales?

Buicks? No, none of them. Monogram already did the T-o-t-L '70 GNX, so that's already in Revell's stable, and I don't see much demand for a GS, much less a lower line Skylark of any year. I don't ever forsee a day when John Q. Public walks into Michael's, a LHS, or scours eBay and chooses a model kit of '71 Buick Skylark over a '77 Pontiac Trans Am, ever. Maybe one time out of one-hundred. Same for a '65 442, or any GM '64 intermediate for that matter.

Revell could've done any '64-'72 GM A-body variant since the two Cutlass convertibles were released, but they've chosen zero. There must be a good reason for that.

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Two other considerations to Casey's point. The road between Point A and Point B at Revell certainly isn't the shortest line. When they laid the foundation of the Tri-5 kits in the 1990s with the '55 Bel Air Convertible, and then '56 Nomad, did anyone REALLY think it would be 2014 before there would be a '57 Bel Air Convertible? Who saw the 150/Black Widow kit being in that series? Who expected there to never be a '55 or '57 Nomad by now?

The other is that unless you're the most Tye-dyed in the wool JoHan, Vintage AMT wire axle lovin' somebody out there, I don't think ANYONE is going to look at a new tool/modified tool '65 GTO and go well...I'd much rather try to graft that Hardtop onto AMT's old '65 than put together a new state of the art kit. There comes a point in my mind - but I'll admit perhaps not in the reality of the marketplace - where these ancient 40-50 year old tools, except perhaps unfortunately for body proportions, can REALLY hold a candle to anything being done in the current manufacturing environment.

I for one would march out tomorrow and buy new '65 & '67 GTOs if it meant relegating those ancient AMT kits into the closet of history they belong in now. Nobody cares if you're not the first, if you're the BEST.

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The question wasn't if it would sell, but rather how well it would sell, or rephrased, would Revell sell enough '67 Pontiac GTO kits to justify the cost of new tooling? I say no, based partly on the existence of the MPC '67 GTO kit, and partly for other reasons. Same deal for the '65 GTO. AMT's kit already exists, so does Revell want to take the chance on tooling up an all new kit, only to have Round2 reissue their '65 GTO and take away half of the potential sales?

Following this logic, we wouldn't have a brand new '67 Camaro from them.

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How about modifying the Revell '65 z16 Chevelle into a Malibu SS without the Z16 trim...

I've been singing that song for YEARS! They only made 201 Z16s and they only came in three colors. A common '65 SS body would open up WAY more possibilities!

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I say that Revell-Monogram's ancient 1970 Chevelle SS-454 , and AMT's carbon-dated '65 GTO and '67 GTO moulds should be given Valhalla !!

We want need new toolings of those kits ; and the only way that's gonna be a reality is if those Old Testament , reissued-ad-nauseam tools are destroyed !

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I say that Revell-Monogram's ancient 1970 Chevelle SS-454 , and AMT's carbon-dated '65 GTO and '67 GTO moulds should be given Valhalla !!

We want need new toolings of those kits ; and the only way that's gonna be a reality is if those Old Testament , reissued-ad-nauseam tools are destroyed !

The Revell snapper 70 Chevelle is quite nice in shape, and it's 1/25. I think it's better than the AMT kit. In fact, I think it's the best '70 Chevelle kit I've seen.

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The Revell snapper 70 Chevelle is quite nice in shape, and it's 1/25. I think it's better than the AMT kit. In fact, I think it's the best '70 Chevelle kit I've seen.

Groovy ! I wonder how well it takes to adding the AMT 1972 Chevelle SS-454 parts to it ?

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With Revell's success with mid line offerings, it would be great to see a '64 Chevelle Malibu, non SS,bench seat, 4 speed car, still leaves room for all the other'64-'65 Chevelle models to follow with different body, interior options, they already have the chassis tooling in inventory,this could follow the same footsteps as the tri-fives that the original cars were referenced to when they were first released.

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The Revell snapper 70 Chevelle is quite nice in shape, and it's 1/25. I think it's better than the AMT kit. In fact, I think it's the best '70 Chevelle kit I've seen.

I agree with you, I bought it for the same reason, that's also the onlyu one which have a good accurate "face" with front headlight off the good size, one question maybe, the hood "scoop" looks a bit small comparing with the '24 Monogram version ( not only because of scale.. )

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A '68 Chevelle SS would be nice to see..or how about a '68-69 Buick GS, '71-72 Buick GS or '70 GTO Judge convertible?

In 1:25 Scale? ABSOLUTELY! How about some A body station wagons?

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