Snake45 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Posted October 12, 2014 The '28 Two door was a MOPAR 413 with some great cast iron Stock exhaust manifolds. Too bad they were just for display, Thanks! I'll note that on the list and give you credit. BTW, whatever happened to this kit? Has it ever been reissued?
Snake45 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Posted October 12, 2014 Just my opinion: the '32 Ford five window Chevy Small Block has to be the worst rendition ever. I think I've seen worse, but I can't think of one right offhand. I built one of these maybe 20 years ago. I put a '57 FI unit from a Revell '57 Chevy on it, and I think different valve covers, and I think it ended up looking the part, more or less. I forget what I did for exhausts on it.
Snake45 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Posted October 12, 2014 Was there a "Swap Program" ? Or was it pretty much just by design? Or coincidence? If the motor mounts all match up, and the distance from motor mount to end of the transmission is the same in all cases, that says to me that somebody had some kind of a plan going on.
Greg Myers Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 If the motor mounts all match up, and the distance from motor mount to end of the transmission is the same in all cases, that says to me that somebody had some kind of a plan going on. I'd have to agree
Greg Myers Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 The transmissions are all pretty much just a little box kind of like an early Ford. That's it.
Greg Myers Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) '49 Ford—Cadillac (not sure this kit was part of this swap program) These guys were a little bit different with their "axle" holes. (Made necessary by the use of metal axles used to mount the wheels front and back. ) Of course these later year kit offerings had longer transmissions. Edited October 12, 2014 by Greg Myers
Greg Myers Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 The '50 Ford kits were similar with only flat head engines stock or rodded.
Greg Myers Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Some good stuff ( another HEMI) going on in the '53 Pick Up , just not sure of the fit.
Art Anderson Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 I'm not altogether sure that AMT's designers back in those early days really considered "interchangeability" all that much when they started out with the Trophy Series, but it sure did turn out to be very much the case. Had such interchangeability been planned from the get-go, it seems to me that it would have been advertised from the get-go, and yet I think the first "advertising" mention was in an early "column" by Bud "The KAT from AMT" Anderson (no relation BTW), but that was at least a couple of years after the introduction of the '32 Ford roadster and coupe, and the '40 Ford kits (1959-60), in which time a number of us older teenaged kids pretty much discovered that such swaps were at least possible, even with a bit of extra work on firewalls or inner fender panels. This "feature" (if you will) may well have been the inspiration for George Toteff when he left AMT to start MPC, and eventually cooked up the idea of the "Switchers" series of kits though. Toteff was an early designer at AMT, and was credited with coming up with the multiple slide core mold concept for one-piece body shells, among other things. Art
Snake45 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Posted October 12, 2014 This "feature" (if you will) may well have been the inspiration for George Toteff when he left AMT to start MPC, and eventually cooked up the idea of the "Switchers" series of kits though. Toteff was an early designer at AMT, and was credited with coming up with the multiple slide core mold concept for one-piece body shells, among other things. Art George might be pleased to know that I'm gonna build up a few of those engines with "switchability" in mind.
Chuck Most Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Thanks! I'll note that on the list and give you credit. BTW, whatever happened to this kit? Has it ever been reissued? That kit's been gone a loooooong time- I think it was last seen in the '60's. The AMT kit is a '25, not a '23 as noted in post 21.
Snake45 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Posted October 12, 2014 The AMT kit is a '25, not a '23 as noted in post 21. List corrected. Thanks!
unclescott58 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 The '28 Two door was a MOPAR 413 with some great cast iron Stock exhaust manifolds. Too bad they were just for display, Interesting to see where they suggest placement for the distributor on the 413 in the above instructions. Scott
bobthehobbyguy Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 I've done the 40 ford with the hemi but it needs the firewall modified for the fan belt and fan to fit. Also the pontaic from the 36 fits into the 32 ford but the firewall needs to be modified and a little adjustment to trans.
bobthehobbyguy Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) The one I found would not fit was the engine from the 25 T into the forty coupe or sedan. It looks like it should but there is interference with black and frame. Edited October 17, 2014 by bobthehobbyguy
Dan Helferich Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 I'm building a '32 Roadster with the Pontiac from the '36 Ford. I shortened the tranny a little to make it fit. Bob is right about the firewall needing modification. I've also put the '32 Roadster Hemi in a Phaeton and that was more of a drop in swap.
mnwildpunk Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Scott is right about the distributor its in the wrong place it should be like the other big block mopars of that age
Dan Helferich Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 If you look closely at the instruction sheet for that Mopar wedge you will see a cut in the engine where the distributor goes. The placement in the picture is misleading but when I built this kit in the '60's I built it correct and the 2 built engines I've picked up in parts lots both have the distributor in the correct spot.
horsepower Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 I'm building a copy of a car that was built in our area in the early sixties, and is still in town with just a freshen up by its new owner after sitting in forced storage for years. It's the tall T coupe from AMT and for the engine I'm using the flathead from the '34 sedan kit, (the gold car on the box) it takes a little work on the motor mounts on the frame for it to work but I think it'll be worth it.
Greg Myers Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 How "Interchangeable" are the engines in the Revell '32 Ford series ? Any other new kits ?
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Pretty much any engine will go in any car. It just kinda depends on what your particular definition of "interchangeable" is.
Snake45 Posted June 16, 2016 Author Posted June 16, 2016 Pretty much any engine will go in any car. It just kinda depends on what your particular definition of "interchangeable" is. That engine is a GM-built Allison. The P-51D in the pic has a Packard-built Rolls-Royce Merlin, although the A models of the Mustang did use the Allison.
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 That engine is a GM-built Allison. The P-51D in the pic has a Packard-built Rolls-Royce Merlin, although the A models of the Mustang did use the Allison. Correctamundo.
Greg Myers Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 How "Interchangeable" are the engines in the Revell '32 Ford series ? Any other new kits ? In relation to this thread?
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 In relation to this thread? So...you want to know which engines will swap around between recent Revell kits with NO surgery whatsoever? Like drop-ins?
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