Kit Basher Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Which Revellogram kit of the '70 Challenger R/T is better, the 1/24, or the 1/25. All things being equal, I would go with 1/25, but if the 1/24 is much better, I might go that way. I already have the Revell Challenger T/A, but I would like to have the R/T as well. Thanks in advance.
Snake45 Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Are you ruling out the AMT kit for some particular reason? Not currently in production but they cranked 'em out for 20 or 30 years so there are still plenty of them around.
Kit Basher Posted October 7, 2014 Author Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Are you ruling out the AMT kit for some particular reason? Not currently in production but they cranked 'em out for 20 or 30 years so there are still plenty of them around. I wouldn't rule out an AMT kit, I just haven't seen one. The Revell kits are readily available. Also, I am particularly interested in the "two vent" hood that both Revells seem to have. After a quick look on Ebay, it appears the AMTs have a shaker hood. Actually, the hood is my main issue. If the hood from the 1/24 Revell R/T would fit my 1/24 T/A, that might be all I would need. I just thought it might be easier to get the whole kit. Edited October 7, 2014 by Kit Basher
Stuntman Mike Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) I don´t like both Revell kits and prefer the AMT kit. If you put the three together, the AMT makes both Revell kits look bad. The ex-monogram kit in 1/24 looks like a blown up balloon and the newer Revell kit in 1/25 is based on a die-cast model and has flattish rocker panels and a metal axle through the engine block. Of course the AMT kit requires a lot of work with the roof, but it is definately the sexiest of the pack. The AMT kit was released as a Vanishing Point movie car and this version has the two-vent hood and a 440 Sixpack included. The old Yankee Challenger kit has the hood aswell. The VP kits are easy to get and cheap in online auctions. I can post a pic of an AMT body in progress and give some advice to get the roof done right if you´re interested. Edited October 7, 2014 by Stuntman Mike
ChrisPflug Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) A rebuildable original MPC can usually be found for not too much money and while not perfect is much better than any of the alternatives The AMT can make a decent convertible and is available with a twin scoop hood but the roof is terrible and a lot of the details are a bit off. The whole interior is oddly blocky and squared off The 1/24 Monogram is a T/A model rather than an R/T and has some proportion issues as well as having the Barracuda seat upholstery pattern since the 1995 release of the original Revell AAR 'cuda- fun build but not particularly accurate The die cast based Revell 1/25 is horrible as far as body shape- slab sided and looking almost more like a late model Challenger than the original. Some decent interior details but too much wrong to really work with I've owned a 1:1 '70 R/T for over 20 years and have accumulated a few MPCs but haven't even attempted a "serious" build with the other kits- they just look too wrong Edited October 8, 2014 by ChrisPflug
Snake45 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Here's a VERY nice AMT Challenger model that was posted recently. The builder used a Jimmy Flintstone replacement SE body but that is based on the AMT body so the basic body shape is the same, just the roof is different. You can get a good idea what the AMT kit looks like here: http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=93395&hl=challenger
Kit Basher Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 Whew, a lot to process! It sounds like they all have some kind of issue. Let me take this is some kind of order: I see the problem with the AMT roof, it does look kinda loopy. Sounds like more body work than I want to get into. Revell faked me out with the 1/24 kit. They re-boxed it as a 2-in-1, with no mention of T/A. I thought it was an R/T, but after reading several descriptions I can see it is the same T/A kit I already have. The Revell 1/25 R/T sounds worthless. Considering that I probably have a snowball's chance of finding a MPC kit, I may go back to my original plan of trying to convert the T/A hood to the twin scoop one. How bad can I mess it up, right? (Hah!) Thanks for all the info guys.
ChrisPflug Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 You can get a resin two scoop hood for the Monogram T/A as well http://www.hartspartsresin.com/resin-parts-list/revell-monogram
Kit Basher Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 Hey, thanks Chris! That looks pretty good. Have you seen one of these in person? Do you know what the quality is like?
John Pol Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 I hear this guy does good stuff seen at some of the model shows
tubbs Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Hey, thanks Chris! That looks pretty good. Have you seen one of these in person? Do you know what the quality is like?Hugh, I cannot speak on the Challenger hood, but I have gotten other conversion parts from hart's parts and they are very nice. I don't think you will have a worry with it.
gtx6970 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 A rebuildable original MPC can usually be found for not too much money and while not perfect is much better than any of the alternatives If you want an accurate 1970 Challenger ,,IMO, this is the only route to take. The Revell / Monogram kit is 1/24th and if you can live with the scale of it, it does build into a nice looking kit And the AMT 1/25th kit is just wrong
Snake45 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 And the AMT 1/25th kit is just wrong I see some problems with the roof, which might be fixable. I'm not a MOPAR expert. Can you give us some other details of what's wrong with the AMT body?
Art Anderson Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 If there's one problem with the Lesney-AMT '70 Challenger kit, it's with the convertible. They did the folded top as if it were stacked up on top of the body, where in actuality, Challenger and Barracuda convertibles were among the very few whose folded convertible top completely disappears below the surface of the body--the top boot being almost completely flush with the bodywork. Art
unclescott58 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 If there's one problem with the Lesney-AMT '70 Challenger kit, it's with the convertible. They did the folded top as if it were stacked up on top of the body, where in actuality, Challenger and Barracuda convertibles were among the very few whose folded convertible top completely disappears below the surface of the body--the top boot being almost completely flush with the bodywork. Art Other than the boot not being flush, how is it otherwise? Scott
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