slantasaurus Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 It's a dual plug engine. 16, not 30. Harry, are you being sarcastic or have you completely miss the point ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'm not telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Ron, you should know by now that Harry's the official forum comedian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamach1 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I assume the Charger was some cars they copied and could care less about the flaws on the "original' car. DM's 71 Mach1 and Boss 351 are fantastic and very accurate and put the old AMT and MPC kits to shame big time. What I never understood is why DM would not sell their products as kits. I'd pay $100 just for an unpainted version and put it together myself. It was a pain in the rear to disassemble one but I did so for one reason - to clone many of the parts you could only dream about after opening the AMT/MPC kits and seeing a promo with an engine. So why did I ruin a perfectly good DM diecast model. I bought about 30 FM and DM models for an average of $20 each from an estate auction and I already had the Boss so it went under the knife and superglue debonder. I bet it took the Chinese worker a good hour at least to put one together as there are a lot of pieces. I'll post some pictures of the parts I scavenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick GMC Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 There are tons of high quality die cast models out there and none of them even come close to comparing to what people can build at home. Even the high dollar stuff like Exoto, which would once have me drooling over, is now unnacceptable to me because of what I have seen on the forums. For a die cast, the Danburys are pretty BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovefordgalaxie Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'll tell you my opinion on this, so you can hear what an actual communist thinks about this. Why did most U.S. companies moved production to China? First: To go around having to pay benefits an decent remunerations to domestic workers, what would "elevate" the cost of the product (according to them) Second: Since the death of Mao, China is no longer Communist. The very fact of selling their work force for cheap to capitalist countries is proof of that. You who did read Marx Angels and Lenin will get to the conclusion that China is a very fake Socialist country. Even the CCCP (Soviet Union) never reached the state of full Communism. We can blame Stalin for this. but that's another story. The fact is: The American worker was able to conquest a lot of rights over the time, and it costed a lot. Class struggle, the formation of unions, and lot's of fight was needed to ensure the right to vacation, to a limited work journey, to health insurance, to benefits, etc. This is very costly to the employer that don't want to see his profit to go down. What does the employer do? Moves the production to a place where work is for cheap, so he can keep the selling price, and not only avoid diminishing profits, but actually to have them going up to the roof. If I'm sorry for DM? NO. I'm waiting for the Chinese versions of their models to arrive, so I can buy a bunch. maybe the next time they start over, if they ever do, they'll learn that less profit with domestic workers is actually better, both for them and for the workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maindrian Pace Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The Chi-Coms confiscated nearly the entire diecast tooling library of GMP several years ago, and so far, none of their products have shown up unauthorized for sale anywhere that I'm aware of. And if the Danbury Mint models materialized in that fashion, it would be very uncool to buy stolen intellectual property, no matter how tempting the price. -MJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrknowetall Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I've seen a bunch of DM '47 Ford sedans on eBay, being shipped directly from China to the eBay auction winners. Not sure what that's about. In any event, Danbury is done with die cast car production. I'm told that the very last DM die cast car for sale will happen sometime in February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzTom Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 This is sad but there may be another side to the story. I don't know what the story is behind DM it but I could guess. As for GMP, I heard from a very good source that they lost that tooling because it wasn't paid for. They also lost their building in GA for the same reason. Ertl has had tooling in Singapore, China and Hong Kong since the late 60's and to my knowledge has never lost tooling there. There must be millions of molds in China by many American companies so I would think if these were taking for no reason this would be on the evening news. To the question about value of the existing DM. In my nearly 50 years of collecting I would say in general they will not skyrocket. If history repeats they will die. It seems if a collector has no future items to look forward to, they lose interest. You will have buyers but not enough for the amount of supply. That said, there will be a few that could go way up in value, just hard to say which cars will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 What's the point of adding detail if its not accurate ??? Would you win a contest with a model if it had 30 spark plug wires because it has more detail than they guy who only put 8 on their model ??? No idea... I'm not a trophy hound. You tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slantasaurus Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 No idea... I'm not a trophy hound. You tell me. I guess there is no point adding detail if you're just gonna glue the hood shut anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I guess there is no point adding detail if you're just gonna glue the hood shut anyway... Right, but then there's no need to add 30 spark plug wires, or whatever. And then people wouldn't get to use the good old cop out "that's so wrong I don't even know where to start" schtick. Here's an idea... start with the first thing ya see wrong, and proceed from that point. Or start from the front of the car and work your way back. Seriously- I'd love to see what's so horribly wrong with the engine bay in the pic, when 1- I've seen detailed built models with pretty much the same amount and type of detail actually win those contests you seem to worry about so much and 2- I have no idea what specific car Danbury used as a reference/inspiration for their model, and I'm pretty sure you haven't either, so without that benchmark, allow me not to make any assumptions on the accuracy of the model, thanks! Seriously though- you could win a contest with incorrect detail. I've seen models win the "box stock" class with things like wheels from other kits and aftermarket decals. If judges are letting stuff like that slip (or not checking against a 1:1), I guess adding correct detail would be of no meaning if all you want to do is win contests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maindrian Pace Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 It's obviously a twin plug race Hemi that they were going for; maybe they didn't get it exactly right, but close. -MJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george 53 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 'Em 'r some SHORT carby rators ya got there sonny. Must be prone ta missfirein, runnin two setsa plugs like that, hu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slantasaurus Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Right, but then there's no need to add 30 spark plug wires, or whatever. And then people wouldn't get to use the good old cop out "that's so wrong I don't even know where to start" schtick. Here's an idea... start with the first thing ya see wrong, and proceed from that point. Or start from the front of the car and work your way back. Seriously- I'd love to see what's so horribly wrong with the engine bay in the pic, when 1- I've seen detailed built models with pretty much the same amount and type of detail actually win those contests you seem to worry about so much and 2- I have no idea what specific car Danbury used as a reference/inspiration for their model, and I'm pretty sure you haven't either, so without that benchmark, allow me not to make any assumptions on the accuracy of the model, thanks! Seriously though- you could win a contest with incorrect detail. I've seen models win the "box stock" class with things like wheels from other kits and aftermarket decals. If judges are letting stuff like that slip (or not checking against a 1:1), I guess adding correct detail would be of no meaning if all you want to do is win contests. The most glairing detail that made me look closer at the charger's engine bay. There is a by-pass hose between the block and intake manifold, no B/RB or Hemi engine has any kind of by-pass hose like that, though a Chrysler LA engine does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 The most glairing detail that made me look closer at the charger's engine bay. There is a by-pass hose between the block and intake manifold, no B/RB or Hemi engine has any kind of by-pass hose like that, though a Chrysler LA engine does. See? A bit more informative than just saying stuff's wrong with it and leaving it at that. I'm just a little shocked you homed in on that (even though you're 100% correct on that being a flaw)- I can't see past that sort-of unravelled braided upper hose. That model pictured isn't what you'd call the best example of the breed, quality wise, but in all factory-stockers always were Danbury's strongest suit. Though they still screwed up the grille on the '70 Mustang worse than Monogram ever dreamed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slantasaurus Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 See? A bit more informative than just saying stuff's wrong with it and leaving it at that. I'm just a little shocked you homed in on that (even though you're 100% correct on that being a flaw)- I can't see past that sort-of unravelled braided upper hose. That model pictured isn't what you'd call the best example of the breed, quality wise, but in all factory-stockers always were Danbury's strongest suit. Though they still screwed up the grille on the '70 Mustang worse than Monogram ever dreamed... Maybe they were planning to share that grille with a Maverick that never came to market, that what it looks like to me. As to the Charger, some of the other things I see wrong could be due to the camera angle. There seems to be wiring that goes nowhere, linkage that isn't attached to anything, etc. Being that the Charger in question is not factory stock, some things can be over looked, but that by-pass hose just seemed to jump out at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatRod Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 This is sad news! I only have three DM's, but I'm glad to have been able to get the ones I have. Very nice detail throughout. My fave.... I also have the Hirohata Merc, and Ala Kart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 That Deuce is sweeeeeeet John as a good buddy surprised me with one for my birthday and whata surprise. I was elated to receive it. I have a few Danbury Mints in my die-cast collection, and they are models of cars from the 50's as I love the chrome, the two and triple toned paint jobs, and fins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Did Danbury actually produce and or ship any of the Hollingsworth Nomads? I surely wanted one of those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark72JPS Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 No. It was going to be the next release in the rod and Custom collection, but it was never released. I was looking forward to that one as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrknowetall Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Last call from Danbury Mint. https://www.danburymint.com/diecast/prod/25B/Limited-Edition-1935-Ford-Deluxe-Coupe_4420-0012.aspx?cm_st=2&cm_s=ps%3a4420-0012&cm_eolp=1 $250 each (gulp), 2500 units. I might pass, although I AM thinking about it. Edited March 3, 2014 by mrknowetall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 That Ford doesn't do anything for me, otherwise I'd buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formula1129 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) That is some nice detail, if you don't mind that there are MANY things wrong with it. Seriously, as modelers some of us complain about every new release and pick apart every detail. There are so many things wrong in that picture I don't know where to begin. If that is the kind of "detail/quality" that DM was know for I'm glad I never laid out any money for their stuff. I don't see much wrong with this. This is where Danbury Shines!!! Funny thing is I found this pick of a 1:1 dual spark Hemi right on this site. Awesome!!! Edited March 11, 2014 by formula1129 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gibbons Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I had heard of issues some time ago, but I just received a flyer for a '65 Mustang fastback about two weeks ago. Is this an old casting re-released, or did DM find a new vendor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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