JTalmage Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Too true. Our '67 289 2-bbl still managed a brash little junior rumble. My ol' '93 5.0 sang like Pavarotti, obviously a reference for my Coyote, which sings like Bocelli. Never got used to the gargle or bus-like mid-range drone of my LS-1 - but its off-line snap and willingness to rev for a cam-in-block was a nice compensation.Even those lousy 4.6 mills made good pipe music...I'm with you there. I love the noise my '94 GT makes with the single chamber flowmasters and tailpipes. And, my '93 Lincoln Mark VIII with the wonderful 4.6 DOHC, now that it has dual exhaust and magnaflows. It's beautiful music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantrix Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 WooHoo! I picked up the first kit of many last night. I heard on FB that they were on store shelves. Give us some unboxing photos when you get a chance. I can't wait. Paydays coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel886 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I heard on FB that they were on store shelves. Give us some unboxing photos when you get a chance. I can't wait. Paydays coming.I wish I could, but apparently one pic is larger than the 2.07MBs I'm allowed. It'll be on FB Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 Got the last two of the initial shipment of kits to Nankin Hobby in NW Metro Detroit earlier today. Apparently the entire first shipment sold out in under 48 hours/two days. Will post a "what's new" review by COB this Monday. TIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spex84 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 And it begins! Anyone know when these are going to make it to Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter31a Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Good luck, Chris. I had to get my 29s out of the States last year as no one up here seemed to get them. Hopefully we'll have better luck with the 30's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spex84 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I managed to get one '29 kit up here...about a year after it was released! Hoping to snag a couple of the '30s though. I'm not in a huge rush, have many other builds to finish first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lacy Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 In four words or less "Those rims are bitchi`!!!" I was just at my local shop which is the giant Pegasus Hobbies. They're like a mega store and it blows my mind that they aren't on the preferred program. Guess I gotta wait another week or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsepower Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 The main issue with SBFs is the front sump. The Sump can interfere with the steering on the pre 1935 Fords where the spring is over the axle. In my experience I have had to mount SBFs further back than a SBC to give steering clearance unless I wanted to mount the engine way too high. The overall length wouldn't really be a problem if they had Chev type rear sumps. The Bronco sump has been commonly used but that only gives about an inch or so in real terms. The oil pump location is the determining factor ChrisChris, the early Cobra (from the dealership) cast aluminum pan was a rear sump like the sbc, they are probably as rare as hens teeth, but many oval track pan and pump manufacturers make rear sump pans for the Ford motors, we had one in a Ford powered limited late model where the rules didn't allow a dry sump system.The Cobra pan was on the Ford small block motors in the John Buttera kits that Revell produced, and all are identical whether it's one of the different '34 body styles, or one of the '26 T variants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsepower Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Best solution? Use the Nailhead from the '29A kit...fits the '30A kit without modifications... including the sidemount Nailhead headers without the jog around the steering column.... (As you guys know well by now, I've still got a severe allergic reaction to SBC's in hot rod Fords, Honda 750 fours in Harley frames, etc., etc.. at least until we see tons of 5.0L Fords appearing '67-'69 Camaro builds....(smile)) TIM I do have some pictures of Ford in Ford sacrilege, at our big local show Kool April Nites, I took pictures of a clean '66 Mustang notchback but was really shocked that when I got around to taking pictures of underhood discovered that it had a 2300 cc Ford four cylinder for power. Edited June 19, 2016 by horsepower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lacy Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Chris, the early Cobra (from the dealership) cast aluminum pan was a rear sump like the sbc, they are probably as rare as hens teeth, but many oval track pan and pump manufacturers make rear sump pans for the Ford motors, we had one in a Ford powered limited late model where the rules didn't allow a dry sump system.The Cobra pan was on the Ford small block motors in the John Buttera kits that Revell produced, and all are identical whether it's one of the different '34 body styles, or one of the '26 T variants.The Cobra pan in the Buttera kits is a front sump. The motor is set back far enough in the chassis that it's a non-issue. That and the Jag based IFS uses a rack & pinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantrix Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) Please ignore these silly quote boxes. I can't figure out how to delete these darned things. Anyway, look what followed me home on Saturday. Mom said I could keep it I'm pretty surprised to see the two part body. Edited June 20, 2016 by Jantrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTalmage Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Picked mine up friday. It's almost like they did the 2 part body as a nod to the old monogram 30. I'm ok with it. It fits really nicely just dry fitting it. I suspect it will look great once it's permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I'm pretty surprised to see the two part body. It's almost like they did the 2 part body as a nod to the old monogram 30. I'm ok with it. It fits really nicely just dry fitting it. I suspect it will look great once it's permanent. If you stop and think about it, you'll realize there would be no easy way to mold the thing and get it out of the mold if it was made in one part. It ain't nostalgia. It's the realities of engineering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantrix Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 If you stop and think about it, you'll realize there would be no easy way to mold the thing and get it out of the mold if it was made in one part. It ain't nostalgia. It's the realities of engineering. As long as they fit well, I'm cool with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) The Cobra pan in the Buttera kits is a front sump. The motor is set back far enough in the chassis that it's a non-issue. That and the Jag based IFS uses a rack & pinion. I'm sure you know this Dennis, but for other guys contemplating putting Fords in Fords...or other cars...one real-world part that works sometimes is the old Bronco pan. It puts the deepest part of the sump in the rear. Easy enough to hack a kit pan into roughly this shape if necessary. Edited June 20, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANovaScotian Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Good luck, Chris. I had to get my 29s out of the States last year as no one up here seemed to get them. Hopefully we'll have better luck with the 30's.The Revell '29 Ford Model A? Wheels & Wings has had them in stock since they've come out. There's two on the shelf as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spex84 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Interesting, thanks Kyle. In my online search for Canadian sources, Wheels and Wings didn't even come up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Make sure to check out this newly-posted, detailed review of the kit contents, if you have not already done so.....TIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Already read the review once. I'll re-read it often in the next few months.I've been waiting for this kit to come out. I have a Nailhead powered High Boy Coupe planned already. But that skeleton interior looks mighty persuasive. Maybe, I'd better buy Two kits. LOL(like any of us are gonna stop at Two of these kits?)The '29 and this new '30 are a license to print money for Revell. I know these kits are not for everyone, but those that do like them, will like them in Case Lot quantities. For you Rep-Stock guys, you finally got your Stock '48 Ford Coupe.Keep Rocking Revell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter31a Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The Revell '29 Ford Model A? Wheels & Wings has had them in stock since they've come out. There's two on the shelf as we speak.They have them now but I couldn't get them there when they first came out. I had to get mine while down at Toledo NNL. Sometime after that I finally found one on the shelves at Wheels and Wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsepower Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 The Cobra pan in the Buttera kits is a front sump. The motor is set back far enough in the chassis that it's a non-issue. That and the Jag based IFS uses a rack & pinion. The Cobra pan in the Buttera kits is a front sump. The motor is set back far enough in the chassis that it's a non-issue. That and the Jag based IFS uses a rack & pinion. You're right, don't know what I was thinking of, this old age thing is getting old. The Bronco pan that's posted elsewhere is the same as the Econoline van, and 4 wd pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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