cobraman Posted October 21 I know I could just slice them off but was wondering if anyone knew of a kit where the fenders are not molded with the body? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Irwin Posted October 21 I think I've built at least one of every VW Beetle kit ever made, and I don't know of any with separate fenders. None have realistic inner quarter panels eithor so some scratch building is in order. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldTrucker Posted October 21 Did the old IMC kit have separate fenders? I know everything else opened on it but can't remember if the fenders were moded in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottH454 Posted October 21 No IMC are not separate. They almost where removed on my chopped beetle project. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Van Posted October 21 Just cut them off!!!!! old tool Revell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobraman Posted October 22 Thanks guys ! I will cut them off then. Unless there is a resin body. I will have to check that. Thanks again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldTrucker Posted October 22 Just look online for a bug with the fenders off. The inner well isn't all that much and shouldn't be too hard to replicate! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitchdup Posted October 22 there is one thats nearly fenderless, the revell mad max looking one in yellow on the box, but the hood looks to be canvas or something. The one i have doesn't have a box so I'm not sure of the kit number or even what they called it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SfanGoch Posted October 22 (edited) That's the ca. 1971 Revell/Advent Baja Chopper/Baja Bug/Champion Spark Bug/Killer Bee. The kit number for the Killer Bee is 85-2144. There's a killer Bee kit available on ebay for $24.99 if you're interested. Edited October 22 by SfanGoch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobraman Posted October 22 Thanks for your responses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Geiger Posted October 22 Here's a couple of photos I took many years ago just for this same reason. and here's something I was playing with a bunch o' years ago... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atmobil Posted October 22 If you are planning a volksrod project, remember that you should move the front axle forwards by stretching the front og the floorpan. The inner fenders on a torsionbar front bug is very simple, the picture poster by Tom over here is of a SuperBeetle with macpherson struts up front. I would claim that the best bet is either the tamiya 66 or hasegawa 66 or 67 (same kits but with different body) or the gunze 56 oval. Old tool revell 1:25 could also work fine and that comes with hop up engine parts in the box. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldTrucker Posted October 22 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tom Geiger said: Here's a couple of photos I took many years ago just for this same reason. and here's something I was playing with a bunch o' years ago... Tom, that is the latter Super Beetle that had a strut front suspension. I hated those things!!!LOL Edited October 22 by OldTrucker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
espo Posted October 23 5 hours ago, Atmobil said: If you are planning a volksrod project, remember that you should move the front axle forwards by stretching the front og the floorpan. The inner fenders on a torsionbar front bug is very simple, the picture poster by Tom over here is of a SuperBeetle with macpherson struts up front. I would claim that the best bet is either the tamiya 66 or hasegawa 66 or 67 (same kits but with different body) or the gunze 56 oval. Old tool revell 1:25 could also work fine and that comes with hop up engine parts in the box. You might try turning the front torsion tubes around. The front suspension is pretty much one part and by mounting the front side of the tubes to the frame would move your front tires forward a good bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobraman Posted October 23 That's pretty much what I was thinking of building. Maybe I can find some plastic spoons or something like that to make those inner panels ????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snake45 Posted October 23 43 minutes ago, espo said: You might try turning the front torsion tubes around. The front suspension is pretty much one part and by mounting the front side of the tubes to the frame would move your front tires forward a good bit. Would that be acceptable to do in real life? Don't think I've ever seen or heard of that done 1:1, but then I don't get out much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
espo Posted October 23 2 minutes ago, Snake45 said: Would that be acceptable to do in real life? Don't think I've ever seen or heard of that done 1:1, but then I don't get out much. I think it can be doable in 1:1. The reason I say this is that at the local annual indoor car show there have been a few Bugs that looked like this was done and that's what made me think off it. I remember one in particular that was a father son project, it helps that they run a hot rod garage, and they had a fenderless, chopped top, flame painted black bug on display. I should have taken a picture, but it looked like they had done something on this order. But now we're talking plastic scale models, and the engineering does seem to change sometimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldTrucker Posted October 23 2 hours ago, espo said: You might try turning the front torsion tubes around. The front suspension is pretty much one part and by mounting the front side of the tubes to the frame would move your front tires forward a good bit. You either have to space the axle out further or reverse the torsion arms towards the front which requires reworking the steering components. Others have used early Ford front axles to lengthen the wheelbase. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitchdup Posted October 23 If you search frame head extension and beetle hot rod on a search engine, it should bring up a few links to 1/1 bug parts. There are 1/1 kits available for the torsion bar and traditional old ford axles to make it a pretty much bolt on job and should help with your build idea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
espo Posted October 23 10 hours ago, OldTrucker said: You either have to space the axle out further or reverse the torsion arms towards the front which requires reworking the steering components. Others have used early Ford front axles to lengthen the wheelbase. I think I would agree. As I remember the "arms" were extended forward on the Black Bug that I saw at the car show. Thinking about it the steering linkage would be hard to connect to the steering box in a safe fashion. The best way may be to use an I beam type suspension of some sort. on a 1:1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon Cole Posted October 23 On 10/21/2019 at 7:56 PM, Dave Van said: Just cut them off!!!!! old tool Revell Dave, that would make any Vee Dub fan proud to call their own! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldTrucker Posted October 23 11 hours ago, stitchdup said: If you search frame head extension and beetle hot rod on a search engine, it should bring up a few links to 1/1 bug parts. There are 1/1 kits available for the torsion bar and traditional old ford axles to make it a pretty much bolt on job and should help with your build idea The shop I worked at the boss's brother made them. Used one (10 inch) on my 64 Baja Beetle I had at the time. Helped balance it out with the 6 cylinder Porsche engine hanging out the back!LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
