Pete J.

Wouldn't Robin be green and red??

Ok, black or dark gray, but more important, FLAT paint. No gloss. Got to hide it in the shadows!

If you go to the real P2P web site I think it is very clear that anything with a large cargo space is excluded. There are no station wagons, SUV or other vehicles that can carry prodigious amounts of stuff! Even hatchbacks seem to be excluded. You may argue that a 240Z is a hatchback but if you are familiar with the vehicle, the hatch is really limited in space. You can put more in the rear of a four door 41 Ford than you can get in that car. No utility trailers or caravans. Just what you can stuff in a trunk, passenger compartment or roof rack. That is why pickups seem to be excluded with one exception in one year. The intent seems to me to be a endurance test of a "standard" passenger car, two or four seats and a trunk.

Placement is only critical in that you need it in clean air. The wheels will cause a lot of turbulence around them so in front of them would be preferable and the higher the better. Size and shape of the wing is going to determine the amount of lift/downforce you generate and the sensitivity. The larger the wing the more force for a given change in the angle of attack(the angle between the cord of the wing and the angle of the air). So a smaller wing would be less likely to develop too much lift/downforce but by the same token, if you don't have a large enough wing, you will not have enough to keep the nose on the ground. Best to use a SWAG measurement on the model. (SWAG = Scientific Wild A## Guess)

Swiss watch makers tweezers are head and sholders above anything you can get in the hobby world. They are very carefully gound and precise in use. They are often refered to as "Diamond tweezers" because jewelers use them for handling diamonds. If you can imagine a piece of photoetched flying across the room, imagine a diamond doing that! You canget them in stainless, brass or regular steel depending on if you need them to be magnetic or not. Peer-Vigor or Grobet are the best known. They are not cheap but they are a critical part of my tool drawer. So much so that I have a spare set. I get mine (and other small precision tools) for a jewerly supply house. Here is a web site for the tweezers I use. Oh, and be careful. If your wife ever gets her hand on them, they are gone for ever. http://www.ottofrei.com/Boley-Style-Nn-Nickel-Plated-Steel-Tweezers

Rob, I may be setting myself up for failure but would it be OK to run a dual entry? I found my Porsche from a friend, but would still like to run the Alfa. If that is ok I would like to run the Porsche as #49

Ok, last chance for decals! I have 4 slots left and I am going to run them this weekend. I need a PM with your number Before Friday please. This is my project while the rest of the Fam is out Black Fridaying!

Primitive engineering. Attach a wing with pivot through the nose of the body. Then run a control arm from the suspension to the front of the wing pivoting the wing with the vertical motion of the suspension. As the suspension compresses the front of the wing goes up increasing lift and as the suspension raises the front of the wing would dip creating down force. Very primitive and it would take a lot of tinkering to get the correct proportion of wing movement for suspension travel. Also the faster the vehicle would go the greater the force per amount of suspension travel. At very high speeds it would probably result in very unstable oscillations but it would look cool and show someone had thought about the problem. At a less primitive level, the system would include dampers and cockpit controls to adjust the rate of movement for speed. It could also have a pitot controlled damper rate mechanism. Kind of a "Steam Punk" system.

Give some thought to this. Power has rarely been the issue with an LSR vehicle. We have had a lot of power for a long time. At speed, aerodynamics is the issue. The V1 was symmetrical because it had even pressure on all sides when passing through the air. On the ground air would build a high pressure area under the car and lift it. Not a good thing when the primary control for the the vehicle is from the wheels. Some sort of "keep it on the ground" devises would be necessary to not turn it into a very short death ride. This is going to be fun to watch what you come up with.

Mark, looking great! Glad to see you are 3D printing as well. Superb model!

I just ordered these. It takes a couple of weeks for them to get here from Spain but when I do get them I will let you know what I think. The first set I ordered were these. This was back when I was going to do a Porsche. I'm not sure I would use them on the Alfa. The tread pattern is a little light for rally tires. We will see the the others look like.

My big issue so far is finding "mud" or off road tires for the Alfa or Porsche. I have a set on the way from Spot model, but I'm not sure the tires are really what I want. I have looked at some pickup tires but getting a rim that will work for the Alfa seems to be a challenge. Most of the tires are to wide. I remember some time ago someone cutting tires down and gluing them together. They had some glue that they used that worked on the soft rubber. Does anyone have any suggestions on that adhesive or other tire sources?

Ok, so I got carried away! I was originally going to use 2 4"X6" decal sheets to handle the requests for decals. Then I added one too many. I decided that I would need to use a 8.5" X 11" sheet instead, so now I have 5 more sets I can accommodate. I already have the paper so it is only costing me the time and postage, so I might as well use the larger sheet. So I have 5 more available. If you want a set, be one of the first 5 to PM me your address and number and I will try to accommodate you. I am planning on running these before the 23rd of November so, please let me know asap. Just a reminder, these are printed on an inkjet printer on white decal paper and clear coated with lacquer. As such you will need to cut them out and trim the white edge off. It will take some effort to do it right. You will get 6 placards and 4 number rondels so you will have some extra to practice on. Also, be sure to test any clear coat you are going to put over the decal on scrap before you put it on your car to make sure you don't have a compatibility issue.

Sorry, not that I recall. When I was in there were over 50 squadrons and 700+ aircraft. Not sure how many crews at that time but there were a lot. I was at U-Tapao at the very end of the war and we never went against the Weasels that I knew of. We didn't know much about the the receivers. We went up to a refueling track and took on anyone who showed up until we got down to bingo fuel. My room mate in Pilot training was a guy named Jerry Irwin. From UPT he went to F-105 weasels in Clark AFB and the F-4 weasels.

A skyline would be a good choice for this race. Tough as nails and great handling! I didn't consider this one but it would be fun to do. The Alfa was purchased a long time ago to do for a friend. He owned one that he raced on the weekends at Willow Springs. It was purple. I may do that color just to honor that commitment that I never did.

If their current history stands, I would bet it is a Mercedes. Would love to see a current F1 merc, but they would never do that is anything other that 1:20 scale.

Found this the today after posting this. This is a photo taken at my then girl friends graduation from Flight Nursing school . We met at Wurtsmith and were married two years after this photo was taken. Two kids and several career changes(for me) and we are 41 year happily married!

Ok, that's it. I will get these in the mail before Thanksgiving. For those not familiar with our ancient puritanical rituals, that is November 22nd this year.

1972-1981 USAF KC-135 driver. 92nd Air Refueling Squadron - Fairchild AFB, Wa 920th Air Refueling Squadron- Wurtsmith AFB, Mi. One tour YTTF to U-Tapao Thailand. One tour on Diego Garcia, BIOT.

Ok, there is one set left.

Ok, two left. As I said before, I'm doing this for people who can't do their own. I am not asking questions, just trusting you all. If you can do your own, please save these for people who can't for some reason. Thanks, Pete

Ok, decided to change cars. I found this car in my stash so it is going to be my choice. It is going to be fun to make the mods to get this across China. Still lots I can do with this one. Roof rack is going to be high on the list as well an bumper overrides as required. Going to keep #42

Ok, no takers? I will let this offer stand through the weekend. This is a no charge offer, because it cost me the same to do 5 as it does to do one. I'm even paying the postage. First 4 only.

Ok, this is a one time offer to 4 people. I was about to run my number decals and realized that I had enough space on the decal sheet for four more sets. I see no reason to waste good decal paper so the first 4 people, and I repeat the first 4 people to PM me with their number and address will get a set of decals. Please make it a PM not a reply to this web page. I intend this to help those out who may not have the ability to print their own, so if you can do it, please let someone else get in the line. I make no guarantee as to the quality but they will be inkjet printed on white decal paper and coated with clear automotive lacquer. Your going to have to cut them out as I don't have the ability to print them like the big boys do. I apologize to those who don't get this but I have limited resources and time so I can't do everyone. The postage alone would be a burden.

I agree! This is not necessarily about modifying a car into a racing vehicle(although it could be). It can be about making a road weary nearly stock rally car. Battle weary, and beaten up with a load of stuff heaped on it. In looking at the photos, it is fun to see the difference between the beautiful highly polished cars at the start and the hammered cars at the finish line. I am going to enjoy making mine look like it has been driven 9,000 miles across Mongolia, the stepps for Russia, through the Urals, Caucasus and the Alps and into the heart of Europe. This is going to be a fun build.