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In what year did that take place? I think the Thunderbird styling really began to hit a downward slide in 1967. Personally, I prefer the '71 to the '67-'69. Steve
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Yup, they're just getting worse again. Steve
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Thanks guys! I've been playing around a little with Greg's (NOBLNG) idea for the marker lights on his '68 Charger to use on this Coronet. I changed the technique just a little by drilling the holes completely through the body and then cutting and polishing about a quarter inch length of aluminum tubing to slip into the hole. This way I figure that I can complete the bezel one of two ways. Either I can add them after all of the painting is finished, (although allowances will need to be considered for paint thickness) or I can install them prior to paint and then reveal them with lacquer thinner in the end as you would a script using the "foil under paint" technique. I think either will work well. I'll just have to ruminate on that a bit. I decided that this was all necessary because there are small sink marks around the front markers that would be difficult to fill and sand with the original markers in place. Lenses I'm not worried about. They can be made with clear or colored sprue and added at a later time. Steve
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StevenGuthmiller replied to Chuckyg1's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
Well, I guess that's one more to scratch off of the list. Steve -
It happens to me all of the time. At some point on nearly every project I hit a wall where at least some aspect of the build begins to bore me and occasionally I have a hard time pushing through. Often times, this can be the engine work. Especially if it's something really pedestrian like a typical Chevy or Ford engine. For this reason, I like to add more exciting engine configurations to my models if possible. For my '67 Ford Galaxie, I did a 427 R-Code, a 426 "Super Stock" engine for my '65 Fury, the W-30 400 for my '68 Olds 442 and a 421 Super Duty tri-power motor for my '64 Grand Prix. This sort of alteration can add enough excitement and interest for me to be able to get through it without getting bored. But in the end, I agree. You have to be enthusiastic about the overall project that you're undertaking or it's going to feel like a burden and is not going anywhere. Honestly, I would have a difficult time remaining interested in a '71 Thunderbird. I never particularly cared for this car either. There doesn't really seem to be anything electrifying about this car in general. Honestly, it mystifies me a bit how Ford sold any of these when they were up against other "personal luxury" cars from the era like the Pontiac Grand Prix, Buick Riviera, Chevy Monte Carlo, etc. It strikes me as being a little too pedantic in comparison. Steve
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I think I understand your point now Steve. I have no knowledge of the Mustang kits that you mentioned. I've never owned any of them, so am not aware of how they stack up against one and other. Steve
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I think that it might be time for me to exit from this discussion and focus more of my attention on the burden of adding more modern elements to a poorly detailed MPC 1968 Dodge Coronet kit. I believe it's referred to as "modeling". Steve
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Sorry Joe. I believe that I may have misread your post. My bad. Steve
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No Joe, it's actually just my opinion. Steve
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Maybe "pioneered" is the wrong term, but AMT, SMP and Johan brought model car kits to the masses. The kits that you mention may have come before, but I still believe that it was the above mentioned producers that really brought about the model car kit craze which accelerated exponentially during the 60s. Steve
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I'm looking forward to modifying it. Maybe into a can of Campbell's Tomato Bisque. Steve
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That's not my point. I'm talking about subject matter, not quality. I don't even consider Tamiya model kits because they produce nothing of interest to me. That's what I meant when I compared a Porsche to a '63 Chevy. Steve
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I really don't even consider price and how it corresponds with the contents of the box when it comes to purchasing a model. The subject is the most important component, at least for me. I will gladly pay $55.00 for a kit that I really want to build, regardless of detail level, but I won't give a plug nickel for a 300 part kit that holds no appeal to me. Steve
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You could very well be correct about the time span of what we consider the "annual" car kit. There is some disagreement about what should be considered a true annual, but never the less, your point is taken. Steve
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Well that's good! There is always room for improvements and it's always nice to see that Round 2 is willing to make some of those in a few key areas. I hope that this kit sells well enough to justify others. It would be a shame not be able to get a crack at a few of these because some folks will only consider fully detailed new tools. Steve
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Isn't that the truth! If we get an old re-issue such as this, it's prehistoric and not worth our time. If we get an all new kit, it's misshapen and inaccurate. Then there's always the obligatory comparison to Tamiya, which while they produce exemplary kits, is no comparison at all unless you consider a Porsche comparable to a '63 Nova wagon. Steve
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The technology is a little more advanced and expectations are little higher today as well. It should look better. Steve
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I couldn't tell you, but I assure you that it won't be happening with this one either. Steve
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I don't believe that you can characterize the companies that produced annual model kits as "padding the bottom line". This era brought about the birth of the model car kit. It's the essence of what a model car kit was. There were no highly detailed model cars at the time. Everything that came after owes it's existence to these simple kits. Likewise, the annual kit phenomenon lasted until, at a very minimum, the early 70s. There were improvements in detail along the way, but they were still just variants of promotional models and were hardly a flash in the pan when there's no question that the vast majority, and broadest range of subject matter of the kits produced in the US were produced throughout the 60s and 70s. I understand that some may regard these kits as relics that have outlived their usefulness, but to a large portion of hobbyists, these kits are a very welcome addition to what many of us feel has become a quite stagnant field of alternatives in terms of the variety of scale automotive subjects in recent years. Of course there are companies such as Tamiya that produce consistently good kits, but if you have no interest in the subject matter that they produce, it becomes a moot point. I look at it from the perspective that more is always better than less, and as we are apparently "modelers" and not just "assemblers" these simple kits give many of us the opportunity to build cars that Tamiya, or any other manufacturer for that matter, will never produce in 1,000 years. They may require more work than a modern kit, but tell me which kit maker today has any plans at all to produce a 1963 Nova station wagon in the future. It's not going to happen. Steve
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Agreed! Steve
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No. It's a copy of the original promo issued in 1963. Steve
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Looks terrible with that transparent metallic plastic, but it will look good wrapped in a decent paint job. Steve
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You just described every American "annual" ever produced. This one is no different. As long as you know that going in, it's up to you to decide if it's worth the price to you. For someone who really wants to build a '63 Nova wagon, it's a blank canvas. It will be up to the modeler to address those issues if they see fit. This is merely another re-issue of an old tooling. It costs Round 2 very little in comparison to re-pop these old kits, so why not? If they don't sell, they're not out a train car full of money. Better to have them offered than not. Steve
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Not new today, but it did come out of the pond today. This is a Revell 1962 Dodge Lancer that was part of a trade with fellow member Keith Buckner, (Bucky) about a week ago. It was covered in heavy coats of silver and yellow paint, but after a few days of soaking, it's nearly completely clean. There are a few small spots of stubborn silver paint that I'll need to address at some point, but for now, it's good enough. Before After Steve
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I've got a whole display case full of curbside models from Johan and AMT from the late 50s and early 60s. Won a few trophies with some of them as well. A nicely done model is more than just a parts count. Steve
