Shane, point well made. Actually it's the GENERAL topic or discussion area that I think makes this forum stand out from others out there, a section where we can relax and be a bit less serious about the stuff we enjoy, our sense of humor, whatever . . . yeah, it's like being a model car shows . . . it's hectic and tense while everyone sets up, the models get talked about, tips and techniques get shared, photographs are taken and then people go off to dinner to enjoy each others' company and to talk about EVERYTHING under the sun. How freeing and wonderful is that!