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I have been wanting to try these seats since I got my copy of issue #138, back in '09, this is the perfect project to try out the seats. Thank you Dave Zinn for the how to, they really come out convincing without a lot of work!!!! They are not finished yet. Need to add the front bar, then the bracing on the back, was even thinking about making cushions out of milliput, but not sure if I can pull those off but will try.