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I went to my hobby shop two days ago and asked for the kit. The owner told me that they are not out yet. I had a conversation with him about it close to a week ago. So two days ago when I was in his shop, he told me that as a matter of fact he just got response from Revell the same morning. They told him that there are only about 15 kits out there that were sent to special people to review them and to magazines. I told him I heard otherwise and he got aggravated and told me I can argue all I want, but these are not out yet. I did not say anything and laughed out loud when I found my copy of the kit in the mail today. I got it from Mark Twain Hobby Center in Saint Charles, MO, for $21. I would classify the kit as simply impressive.
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I have a question for the guys who are around street rods all the time. I guess it goes for both this kit and all the '32 Fords. When you have a triangulated rear latter bar suspension like this, do you HAVE TO have a panhard bar or the triangular geometry of the rods is enough? The reason I am asking is not to question the kit, but rather to inform myself for a future build as I have one of these on its way to me. All the pictures I have seen on the net with set up like this have leaf spring and plain shocks. And the ones that have coil overs always have a some sort of pahhard bar. I personally like the plain more modern look of Tim's built. I am just curious, would it be authentic if I leave it like that?
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Apparently, this is already out. My hobby shop told me they have about four on the shelf.
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I am still building it. I just had to put a hold on my plastic projects for a little, in order to take care of some far more important things. It will be back on the bench real soon.
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I'll be buying some if htey followed in the steps of the other 32s. What I mean is that every reissue had something new/different in it. I would love to see a new valve covers/intake option or an I-beam axle. And dare we dream of a quick change rear…..
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Revell & Foose poll for 2 new kits
mrm replied to 1930fordpickup's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
So, Are there any news about this? Rumors? Inside info? Educated guesses? -
What do you suppose this is ?
mrm replied to Greg Myers's topic in General Automotive Talk (Trucks and Cars)
It's obviously a four door. But I don't think it is a Ford and I would be surprised if it is 1:24/5. This is most like a military 1:35 Citroen or something like that. -
Pretty cool. That's a sick motor.
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Yes, some plastics bleed through. The main reason I switched to two part automotive primers. I built a lot of diecast models. Did a lot of Ferrari 355s. Both made by UT of Germany and by Hotwheels in 1:18. Started with red models as donors. Stripped everything down to find out everything is metal except the bumpers the rear lids and the mirrors. The mirrors were very flexible, rubber like material, but black in color under the paint. The bumpers were molded in a brittle red plastic and the lid molded in very flexible hard plastic. Had to paint one in white and the other in yellow. Both of them were done the same way. Strip all old paint, wash very well, air dry, tamiya grey primer followed by Tamiya white primer and then tamiya color. Everything decanted from their spray cans. In both cases primer was first perfect grey, then perfect white and then the colors were pure and as intended. Then sprayed Tamiya clear and everything changed……only at the bumpers. Both cars retained their color beautifully, except the bumpers. Funny thing was that the engine lids that were also molded in red plastic, but visibly a different kind did not bleed through. But I had a noticeably orange and pink bumpers.
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Yrs it is. I am not sure of which kind. I had some left from loooong time ago. No problem man
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Thanks for the great pictures Dennis.
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Thanks for the comments guys I actually looked at that birch plywood and was not a fan of it. I'll try the Balsa and if I fudge it up, I'll go the plywood route. Hi Shaun, everyone is saying go with the two doors at the back and it was what I was thinking about too. So probably that's the way it will go. I would not cut the roof tho. I don't think it would look good on a C-cab. About the steps - it already has two steps at the rear and one on each side. I need to finish a couple of other models I am building for people first, before I come back to this, but stay tuned….. Thanks for looking.
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The real one also has a roof rack, a different shape of the wood work at the back and numerous other differences. I still think it is a great kit. I've built a few of them in different variations and still have three more on my "started, but will they be ever finished" list.
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A really cool model with a lot of cool parts in it. I also believe this was the second release of the '32 Fords, right before the roadster. I consider the rat roastered a completely separate model from the roadster and not a reissue. Every single part on it, with the exception of the suspension is a new tooling. They are coming out with the '29 now some suspension parts that I am sure will find their way into more '32 reissues or hopefully new kits. I wouldn't mind (and it wouldn't surprise me) if they come up with a Phaeton, a Vicky and a B400. The Phaeton can use most of the interior from the Tudor and would need just a new body. The vicky and B400 can use the interior from the Speed Wagon and just need new bodies. And if they introduce little new details in each new release, they will definitely sell. A new motor here, a quick change there……We may even live to see a Deuce with a decent independent suspension.
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Is this the engine that comes with the kit?
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The new hood is cut out and some things were just slightly smoothed.
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cool motor
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People do take the hobby WAAAAYYYYY to seriously, to the point of sometimes taking the fun out of it. What is worse, in a very comical way tho, is how seriously some people are taking themselves on here.
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Revells next release from the Model A Roadster tool - a 30/31 Coupe
mrm replied to cdansie's topic in Car Kit News & Reviews
I understand and agree with every single thing you said Chris. But fail to see the need to apply it to this particular case. Here is why... First you can't compare what you do with the release of a toy. If I am your customer and ask you my front to be three inches from the ground, there is no excuse to receive anything else when I pay you. The same would be true, if you commission me to build you a model of '30 Ford with stock firewall and I use one like what we are talking about. That should not, could not and would not happen. But this is not what we are dealing with, are we? We are dealing with a generic representation of a street rod built by someone's imagination. If this was marketed as exact replica of one particular piece out there, I would be totally on the same boat as you guys. But it is not. I am pretty sure there is not one single person on the entire planet that has seen every single Street Rod based on a '30 Ford. I am not trying to give credibility to an earlier post that the designer of the kit based the roof on a rod he saw in person, but it is possible. More importantly- it is irrelevant. The beauty of Hot Rodding is exactly that no two are the same. Hot rods are art in sense that they are someone's personal expression. I think that the reason some on here are failing to welcome this kit is because you are looking at it from the wrong point of view. You are trying to relate to what you have seen. To see in it a replica of existing car somewhere out there. And I believe that Revell actually has hit a perfect ten with it, providing a blank canvas for anyone who wants to build a '30 Street Rod. Accurate enough for the average builder to make a generic representation of something they saw at the local car show, with enough kitbashing material to justify more seasoned builders buying multiple pieces, yet easy enough for accomplished modelers to get it "just right". The way I see it, it's a homerun from any angle. But let me throw two simple scenarios out there. I live in a town of 6000 people ( for real) We have a very small car club. Some guys have some hot rods that probably have "weird" elements that no one outside a 200 miles radius has seen. So lets say that whoever designed what we are seeing in these photos saw a '30 Street Rod at one such small town show and used it to base the model on it. So this could be the most accurate replica in the world, but to anyone outside the hypothetical 200 mile radius it would be messed up in all sorts of ways. Now let's entertain a completely different scenario. The model is not developed at all. Someone already working on the next variation of the announced '29 mocked up what an eventual variation would look like from all sorts of parts just as a visual representation of what they are starting to work on. I apologize if I have missed it somewhere, but I was left with the impression that this is not even announced as an upcoming model yet. -
Revells next release from the Model A Roadster tool - a 30/31 Coupe
mrm replied to cdansie's topic in Car Kit News & Reviews
Hahhahaha….you crack me up. But what cracks me up even more is the logic behind some of the complaints about this kit. So let me see if I get this right…We have a 1930 Ford body, that has been chopped, the roof has been filled ala '32 and it is fitted with who knows what fantasy combination of interior components. Then this wild cocktail is seated on top of a 1932 Ford chassis, with modern Chevy motor and Buick brakes, which probably will have very little in common with anything close to stock 1932 Ford chassis. Did I miss anything?….. Either way….And the firewall not matching the one found on a pristine stock 1930 is an issue?!?!?!?!?! Bwahahahahaa P.S. I am not familiar with Revell's statistics, but It seems like their '32s are one of their biggest hits, that sold millions. I was just wondering, because without knowing what exactly the firewall on a pristine stock '32 looks like, I am pretty sure it is nothing like what is in the kit. -
Revells next release from the Model A Roadster tool - a 30/31 Coupe
mrm replied to cdansie's topic in Car Kit News & Reviews
Glad you see the humor in it. It was intentional, demonstrating my point. I can copy and paste the exact same post in numerous of threads and probably do it over and over in the next ten years. Because of three main reasons. First, there is always the group of people that no matter what, will criticize "the upcoming kit". If it is a chopped '30s Ford - why is it chopped, it should have been stock body, we can chop it….. If it is stock, why do we have to chop it, it should've been blah, blah, blah……. Second, past records have proven, that not much has changed over time. They will not correct the kit right away, no matter what. It is simply not financially feasible to do so. Because they can sell more than enough just the way they are to have a return on their investment. Remember that their profit is not affected by the final buyer. It is affected by the distributor's order. And in case you have not figured it out yet, the managers at Wallmart, Hobby Lobby, Michael's etc probably can not make a difference between a '16 Ford and a '36 model. Neither most of their customers who will buy the kits for their kids or just to keep busy in the winter. Which brings us to the last, but not least important reason, why my post could be recycled time and time again. Revell do not put kits out for people with stashes. They put them out for the people just starting their stashes or maybe just trying the hobby for the first time. Because if they were catering to people with stashes, this hobby would have been dead long time ago and Revell would have probably moved on to RC cars or video games. -
Thank you guys. Stephen, I'm glad you like the red Vicky. You are being too harsh on yourself. I think your project will come out really cool also. Now back to some body mods. This thing needs to be long and low and everything to flow. So first thing on the agenda was to copy the 3 window coupe's door leading edge. And then transfer it to the Vicky's boby Then some new lines were scribed and everything that will not be needed in the future was puttied over Stay tuned and thanks for looking…..
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Thank you guys. Any opinions/suggestions about the rear? Doors, no doors, half doors?
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Revells next release from the Model A Roadster tool - a 30/31 Coupe
mrm replied to cdansie's topic in Car Kit News & Reviews
I have been following this thread and the couple other ones since they were started and I decided to finally put in my 2 cents as worthless they may be to some of you. I think the main plot here is totally lost. And this is not the first time I see this and not only in this genre. I am a rare breed of modeler. I say this because I collect 1:43 diecast AND resin models. I build them too. Customize them, modify them, build them on commission for other people and for myself. I also collect 1:18 scale cheap toy motorcycle models (Ducatti only). I also have probably one of the best 1:18 diecast collections of Ferraris in the country. If it was made in 1:18- I own it. But I also build them. I have parts 3D designed and 3D printed for me and I make my own molds for them and then use them to modify already existing diecast models. These are almost exclusively exotic cars. To many it seems strange that I have completely mixed the hobby of collecting diecast with building plastic models. The other "no-no" in many's eyes is that I am as much a Ferrari guy as I am a hot/street rod guy. Street rods are my passion. I love to build them and here I work almost exclusively in plastic. Why am I telling you all this? Because I run into the same discussions, arguments and down right nasty exchanges in all the forums. And the main thing the 1:43 crowd, the 1:18 exotics fans, the F1 buffs, the diecast muscle car fanatics, the plastic kit mob and the 1:24 Franklin/Danburry Mint gang have in common is each clique's selfish, self centered tunnel vision, which gives them the ability to ignore the existence of anything outside their interest. Folks collecting diecast fail miserably to have the basic understanding of how pressure molding works (actually pretty much same in plastic kits and metal) and therefore b!tch and moan about extra lines or not perfect undercuts. The comparisons that some make between a $500 handmade collectors resin model and Bburago's latest $30 release meant to be sold at gas stations across Europe is just as absurd as the comparisons I read about on here, where a plastic model toy (the true purpose of Revell's product) sold in Walmart is compared with mediocrity causing a Space shuttle to fall apart. To add to this craziness, there are kindergarten level battles, complete with name calling, wiener measuring contests and credentials pulling, over a STREET ROD model, which half of the participants will probably build as a rat rod. You know, that novelty style, where rusted pitchforks are used as fenders, grandpa's tractor donated its nose for a grille shell and lotsa junk in da trunk (literally). Here is the bottom line. My kid likes to build cars "with the engine sticking out" and has no clue (yet) about the difference between a 1928 and 1932 Ford. I like to build Street Rods. I cut them, slice them, dice them and splice them anyway I find fit in order to make them look the way I want. I had no idea what the firewall on a pristine factory stock model A looks like. I don't care. This may really upset some, but the simple reality is, that me and my kids are the vast majority. And the people who really care about the edge of the roof insert and how round a fire wall is or if the bumper guards on a plastic toy are bigger or smaller are very few and far in between, when compared to the expected world wide sales. Just like the 1:18 scale crowd completely ignores the elephant in the room called 1:43 and the supercar fanboys ignore all the BMW and Mercedes collectors who couldn't care less what land rocket some sheikh in Abu Dhabi just bought, same way a lot of people on here completely ignore the fact that these kits are sold all over the world and a builder in Romania couldn't care less what the requirements in the 48 states were in 195X. It puzzles me to see people proudly announcing how they spent $10 for a front axle from Australia, $20 on brakes from Maryland, $15 on a rough resin body from NJ and throw them in a bag with parts from four other kits to come up with what is in one of these hot-topic-kits-soon-to-come and complain about the $24 they would have to spend. It's a hobby, it's A TOY. It's a KIT, that you have to put together. It's a business, from the other side of the fence. It has some faults. Who cares? Just like any other product out there, you have the choice not to buy it. Don't like it, don't buy it. The chassis/suspension/wheels/tires/brakes alone in the 28/9-30 kit are worth twice the price of the whole kit in aftermarket pieces. And the hypocrites on here, who had no idea about 90% of the issues until yesterday, who proclaim that now they will not buy the kit, are the first ones who would stack up three or four of them in their basement the first chance they have. I personally never buy more than one of the same kit at the same time. But I can guarantee you that I will be getting one of each of the new (hot topic) releases from Revell, the first chance I have. And those who don't buy any, would not make the slightest bit of difference in the big picture. So built what you like, have fun and stop belittling other people's hard work. It is really tiring to see the same handful of people time and time again calling the glass half empty even when it is three quarters full.