BRE Datsun 240Z

[935k3]

Does anybody have been pictures of whats in the box?

[aurfalien]

I sent an email to support but based on there description, its bad a$$!

"In 1965, working with a select group of car manufacturers, Pete Brock started Brock Racing Enterprises. In 1969, BRE, working exclusively with Datsun, began a string of championship winning years. For two years, the BRE Datsun 240Z driven by John Morton won the intensely competitive C Production class. Kit features a detailed 6-cylinder racing engine, vinyl oil lines, front and rear spoilers and soft black tires.

SSP - Selected Subjects Program - Limited Production - One-time offering."

I just read were it was originally issued in the 70's, then re-issued in the 90's.  So this is a re-re-issue with modern tools etc...

http://zhome.com/BRE/RevellModels.htm

 

Edited October 5, 2015 by aurfalien

[Lizard Racing]

I have a new kit on order.

I built one back in the '70s and it was pretty good.  Detailed interior and engine with oil lines.

[keyser]

Likely same as previous issues, I've had a few, original BRE, Walt Maas. 

Been looking for you, here's best I cold find, the stocker 

http://www.automodeler.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=4877

The BRE has race seat, roll bar, oil coolers, solid HL covers, spook spoiler, rear spoiler, Webers and header. Awesome American mags, not Libres, but correct. Plain bumper, no rear bumper, straight exhaust, and now have the decent fat tires rather than the awful 2 piece ones in many early issues. 

Fun build, need to drop it down a little, but easy fiddle with struts. Nice detail, east to paint. Window frames a bit clunky, trim down, and paint /foil flat part only, use thin black paint for rubber gaskets either side of moldinds with ultra-fine sharpie. 

I've had 3 original 240's, so I'm picky, and it's very nice. 

 

Edited October 5, 2015 by keyser

[martinfan5]

I have heard the 240 kit can be challenging to build, fit issues if I recall.

[keyser]

I have heard the 240 kit can be challenging to build, fit issues if I recall.

Biggest issue could be rear panel, it's separate. Nose also separate, but really goes on pretty well. Not enough support on taillight panel to body to align great, but tack in place and add couple small tab supports/gussets at bottom of rear valance, and it's good. Slide chassis in from front too. TL panel was grey, so seam is ok. My head didn't hurt after messing with it on a couple builds. 

The glass is hugely thick, but side and rear glass easy to make from sheet plastic. . Windshield tolerable so could punt.

Found pic of nice build on Canadian modeler site. Need to remove side markers too, I forgot. See what I mean about window frames and driprails? 

Edited October 5, 2015 by keyser
Forgot + pic

[horsepower]

A lot of people don't know that the chrome on the front and rear windshields is only a small 1/4" piece inside the rubber gasket and it's only purpose was to expand the rubber to hold the glass in. So it would look closer to scale painted semi gloss black.

[keyser]

Truly, really delicate trim. Also, the seam between nose and fender is very slender but is not molded in, nor are the headlight covers. The seam should be there.

Here's a decent 1:1 pic that show this. Love these cars, never should have sold any of mine. The wheel rim tree mounting points also can leave divits in rim if not careful. Chrome was mostly stainless, and wheels were not shiny. Bumper really only bright chrome on it, grilles were a medium metallic grey.

Sorry for all the details. Really forgot how much I love these things. Landmark sportscar. Build a BRE 2000 roadster too, another awesome race car.

Edited October 6, 2015 by keyser

[Daddyfink]

Got to see this other clone at JCCS 2015, along with John Morton, parked near the Nissan display. As for the chrome trim, after a few races that went away due to the windshield having to be replaced a few times. Either way is correct, but, for ease of building, leaving off that detail would be easier. 

Also, this engine has been built as close to the original as possible, so colors are pretty correct. 

Here are a couple of more pics

[Ace-Garageguy]

I have a couple of the first and subsequent releases, both stock and the BRE car. I agree, it's really quite a nice kit...and it's way better a representation of the subject than Revell's Porsche 914 of around the same vintage. The Webers are quite good if you replace the molded air-horn blobs with decent velocity stacks, too.

I've owned and built my fair share of these in 1:1 too, still have 2 engines, one equipped with Webers!

[keyser]

Great cars. I ended up with 6800 mi 73 in family since new. Had Minilites, Spook, 40 dcoes, cam, header new. I put dog clutch 2000 5 spd, 42 dcoes, threaded collar Konis, 3.9/4.11 rears, and sent motor to Electrodyne with JDM 3.0 forged L diesel crank and lots of head work. Thing crushed 911s. Persimmon Red over black, A/C car. SCCA C production was owned by these cars, as was CSP in my corner of the world. 

Epic for cheap. 

[Drake69]

I picked up one of these over the weekend, so I'll try and get some pics up. It has tubing in the kit to replicate engine hoses that you have to cut in length for, but there is a template in the instructions for that. It shows Skill 3 but it doesn't look all that difficult.

[Drake69]

These are the pics I have so far...

[Daddyfink]

Looks like the seats will have to be replaced with something more correct, like the seats out of the BRE 510

[Pete J.]

Looks like the seats will have to be replaced with something more correct, like the seats out of the BRE 510

Jesse, you going to bring one of these to the meeting next week.  My second car was a 72 240Z.  Loved it almost as much as the car that replaced it, my 911

 

[keyser]

The BRE had race seat IIRC. Can't find any of my earlier issues, or photos, but there was a race seat, along with both stock seats. 

Z kit race seat was different than 510 race seat

Edited October 16, 2015 by keyser

[Chuck Most]

All I'm going to say is snap these up before they're gone, like the recent run of the 510 BRE. I'm still kicking myself for only buying one of those. 

[martinfan5]

The only thing I really want from this kit are the stripes for the sides.

[Daddyfink]

Jesse, you going to bring one of these to the meeting next week.  My second car was a 72 240Z.  Loved it almost as much as the car that replaced it, my 911

 

Unfortunately I will not be making this meeting, I am driving up to Bakersfield for the Hot Rod Reunion, but I will try for the November meet. 

[Daddyfink]

The BRE had race seat IIRC. Can't find any of my earlier issues, or photos, but there was a race seat, along with both stock seats. 

Z kit race seat was different than 510 race seat

I will check my earlier editions and see what was in the box. But I don't remember them coming with the stock seats. Maybe they are getting ready to run the "Stock" version of the kit as well

[hpiguy]

All I'm going to say is snap these up before they're gone, like the recent run of the 510 BRE. I'm still kicking myself for only buying one of those. 

Agreed. I wanted the 510 and as soon as I saw it was available, it was out of stock already.

[afx]

Are the tires one piece?

[Vince Nemanic]

What are the tires like? are they the ones in the newer 510 or the old 2 piece?

[keyser]

One piece like low riders iirc. Look great. Width on the money. Have been in last few issues, 510 too

I wish the 510 with stock seats came back. I think stock door panels on back side of race door panels, clever for '70's. 

[hpiguy]