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Okay building a Monogram 1991 Davey Allison Havoline T Bird. Sprayed 2 coats of Rustoleum Gloss Black Paint and Primer on her. Got a definite haziness so put Easy Off on her to strip her last night. This morning took her out scrubbed and rinsed her. Paint didn't budge. She's in her 2nd application of EO. Getting concerned (insert panicky here) that I have effed the body up. Anyone with suggestions I'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks

Jerry

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Get another kit.

 

Nah, just kidding, man. :D 

I had the same problem painting an AMT '70 Super Bee. I also used Rustoleum primer and Gloss Black and wanted to repaint. I ended up using Liquid Plumber and scrubbed the stuff off with steel wool. Took a while; but, it finally came off.

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Get another kit.

 

Nah, just kidding, man. :D 

I had the same problem painting an AMT '70 Super Bee. I also used Rustoleum primer and Gloss Black and wanted to repaint. I ended up using Liquid Plumber and scrubbed the stuff off with steel wool. Took a while; but, it finally came off.

Thanks Stan

No pitting or scarring of the body ( of the car )??

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There are four generally used paint strippers out there that every one seems to use.  Each works on a specific paint.  None works on all paints.  You have to experiment and see what is going to work, but there is a high probability that one will do the job.  You've already tried oven cleaner.  The other three are 91% alcohol, Castol Super clean(aka automotive engine degreaser) and DOT 3 brake fluid.  All of these require care in handling with eye protection and a good set of chemical gloves.  I use all three depending on the paint I am trying to strip.  Good luck

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Sfan's Liquid plumber contains the active ingredient in Easy Off (the smelly one), sodium hydroxide, commonly known as lye. Liquid Plumber also contains sodium hypochlorite which is basically bleach. Neither of these should harm model car plastic.

Just be certain to wear good rubber gloves when working with the stuff, as well as eye protection.

I've successfully stripped real car parts in a solution of Liquid Plumber, but it takes some soaking. If you can paint the parts with the stuff and then bag them so it doesn't dry out, it works much better.

If your paint product was one of the ones that combines "primer" with the color, it may have etched into the plastic and may be almost impossible to remove without damage.

This is usually the case with the Rustoleum Fusion products.

 

Edited by Ace-Garageguy
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Did you let the Easy-Off dry on the body, or did you have it sealed so it stayed "wet" all night. IME, if E-O is allowed to dry on the body, the paint is stuck on as hard as it was originally.

Also, was the Easy-Off the "fumeless" or "odor free" kind? That stuff doesn't work as well as the real Heavy Duty product.

In my experience, if you spray on Easy Off, let it sit 15-20 minutes, and then try to scrub or rub paint off, if you don't get ANY paint off at all, it's not going to work on that paint. If you get ANY paint off in first application, E-O will eventually take all of it off, though it might take multiple applications.

If E-O doesn't work, try rubbing alcohol. If that doesn't work, time to move on to brake fluid.

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I ended up using the jelled Liquid Plumber because the E-O didn't do a thing. The LP has a higher lye content than the E-O. After all, you are trying to clear hairballs from your shower/bath tub drain. :) 

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Did you let the Easy-Off dry on the body, or did you have it sealed so it stayed "wet" all night. IME, if E-O is allowed to dry on the body, the paint is stuck on as hard as it was originally.

Also, was the Easy-Off the "fumeless" or "odor free" kind? That stuff doesn't work as well as the real Heavy Duty product.

In my experience, if you spray on Easy Off, let it sit 15-20 minutes, and then try to scrub or rub paint off, if you don't get ANY paint off at all, it's not going to work on that paint. If you get ANY paint off in first application, E-O will eventually take all of it off, though it might take multiple applications.

If E-O doesn't work, try rubbing alcohol. If that doesn't work, time to move on to brake fluid.

Snake

Hello. I used the yellow E-O. Put the body hood and bumpers in a large rectangular Tupperware with a snap lid. I'm attempting to remove The Rustoleum paint and primer in one paint (2 coats) maybe the second shot will do the trick. Hopefully.

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If you really didn't get anything off with EO you might need to go to brake fluid(not cleaner in the spray can). EO works on soft enamel paints like Testors, the Rustoeum might be a tougher laquer paint that will need a different stripper to remove it. Another thing to consider is the effort it's going to take to strip it versus the cost of replacing the kit, all of those Monogram T-birds have the same body in them and lesser known drivers kits can be had for about $5 on ebay so sinking a lot of time and effort into saving this body might not be the best choice.

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If you really didn't get anything off with EO you might need to go to brake fluid(not cleaner in the spray can). EO works on soft enamel paints like Testors, the Rustoeum might be a tougher laquer paint that will need a different stripper to remove it. Another thing to consider is the effort it's going to take to strip it versus the cost of replacing the kit, all of those Monogram T-birds have the same body in them and lesser known drivers kits can be had for about $5 on ebay so sinking a lot of time and effort into saving this body might not be the best choice.

Brian thanks for the advice. If the Easy Off doesn't work I'll p/u another kit on eBay.

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Brian thanks for the advice. If the Easy Off doesn't work I'll p/u another kit on eBay.

Try some Super Clean.

I've had paint that oven cleaner wouldn't touch come off pretty well with Super Clean.

I've stripped bodies sprayed with 6 or 8 coats of automotive lacquer with it.

I have had issues with some flat paints & primers not coming off, but given some time, the paint comes off in sheets.

It works by dissolving the primer & loosening up the paint to the point where it just peels off.

I've had bodies where an entire side comes off in one sheet.

I do agree though, that if the body is easily & inexpensively replaced, I wouldn't even mess with stripping it.

 

Steve

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I have stopped using brake fluid or Easy Off. Now I keep two tubs on hand, one with 99% isopropyl alcohol and the other with Super Clean. There hasn't been a finish that either of these two couldn't remove.

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