Ferguson Tractor from Heller

[stavanzer]

I wonder why there are 4 small tires? Is there a trailer in there too?  Are there 4 small wheels/rims as well?

[RandyEarle]

Back in the day we called them Ford/Fergusons.

[Longbox55]

A Ford/Ferguson would only be the 9N and 2N Fords, which were badged as such. The 8N did not have nay Ferguson badging, and the Ferguson tractors share no parts with the Ford.

[Bennyg]

I wonder why there are 4 small tires? Is there a trailer in there too?  Are there 4 small wheels/rims as well?

Optional front tyres.

[stavanzer]

Ahhh. Thank You.

[maxwell48098]

I used to work for a landscaper in the '60's who has a Ford-Ferguson tractor that was powered by an old 4 cylinder Ford flathead engine.  I remember having to do a tune-up on it one time and the plugs, points & condenser, distributor cap and wires that the auto parts store supplied were for a 1941 Ford truck engine. It was surprising the power that little guy had.

[maxwell48098]

I used to work for a landscaper in the '60's who has a Ford-Ferguson tractor that was powered by an old 4 cylinder Ford flathead engine.  I remember having to do a tune-up on it one time and the plugs, points & condenser, distributor cap and wires that the auto parts store supplied were for a 1941 Ford truck engine. It was surprising the power that little guy had.

[Longbox55]

I used to work for a landscaper in the '60's who has a Ford-Ferguson tractor that was powered by an old 4 cylinder Ford flathead engine.  I remember having to do a tune-up on it one time and the plugs, points & condenser, distributor cap and wires that the auto parts store supplied were for a 1941 Ford truck engine. It was surprising the power that little guy had.

The engine from the Ford 9N was a factory option in Ford trucks in '41. They're actually quite rare, as most buyers got the V8 instead due to the lack of performance of the 4 cylinder in a truck. Most of them went into Panel trucks.

[Art Anderson]

 

Bill, it might seem odd, but most of the pics I see of 1941-'42 Ford pickups  show the 4cyl version--no V8 badging on the front of the hood, at the bottom of the chrome hood spear where that meets the strips of chrome along the bottom edge of the front.

Art

[Art Anderson]

Got my Ferguson Tractor kit in the mail today, from Megahobby--whoa Nellie--it looks fantastic!

Art

[Bennyg]

Got my Ferguson Tractor kit in the mail today, from Megahobby--whoa Nellie--it looks fantastic!

Art

Just watch the front axle assembly. The rest of the kit fits like a dream so far.

[von Zipper]

A Ford/Ferguson would only be the 9N and 2N Fords, which were badged as such. The 8N did not have nay Ferguson badging, and the Ferguson tractors share no parts with the Ford.

This is mostly correct , although the 8N did not have any "Ferguson System' markings-it still had the Ferguson 3 point implement hitch system-THAT is and was Harry Fergusons only contribution to the Ford tractors . By 1947-48 when the 8N was coming out Henry Ford himself was either too old or died to be involved with production-Henry Ford II and Harry Ferguson  were in a patent battle as to who owned the 3 point system-The Ferguson 3 point system is the same basic idea being made today on most modern tractors . Google Harry Ferguson and read about the "Hand Shake Deal"

To my mind , trying to make a Ford out of the Ferguson is like trying to turn a IH Scout into a first gen Bronco=Close but no cigar !  Besides that-Ertl made a very nice 9N in diecast that looks like it could have been a Franklin or Danbury Mint . The one I have is either 1/24 or 1/25 and is very nice-No need to do any thing to it .

[KDmitry]

Front axle did not give many problems but rear-yes. To mach space for gluing. Cant find instruction to advice better way but will recomend use only wheel and first detal which stay inside support.

[Mike Chernecki]

Front axle did not give many problems but rear-yes. To mach space for gluing. Cant find instruction to advice better way but will recomend use only wheel and first detal which stay inside support.

Looks good built-up. Hmm, odd the exhaust goes straight up, mine runs under the tractor.

[Bennyg]

Looks good built-up. Hmm, odd the exhaust goes straight up, mine runs under the tractor.

It's an option, like the front tyres.

Ben

[Mike Chernecki]

It's an option, like the front tyres.

Ben

Thanks Ben!

[KDmitry]

No, no,no tractor exhaust MUST be up:) and need a cover like that , Will do later 

 

Edited December 6, 2016 by KDmitry

[Atmobil]

Just because it is that time of year again:

 

Edited December 6, 2016 by Atmobil

[Art Anderson]

 

 

 

In the US, most certainly in farming "row crops", an exhaust running down and underneath the tractor would be a serious fire hazard, particularly at harvest time, due to all the dried crop vegetation below the tractor!   For that reason, almost universally, farm tractors, certainly back in the years of gasoline engines, had exhaust pipes that went straight up, well away from any otherwise combustible crop stubble, even uncut by ripened and dried out wheat and similar grain crops.  While the hinged, counterbalanced "flap covers" were available, not many farmers around here bothered with them, given that common used empty tin cans were a dime a dozen around any home by the 1930's and beyond--farmers kept a lot of those around their barns and implement sheds (they didn't often park tractors outdoors in the weather back then). so, shut the tractor down, grab a tin can, turn in upside down on the end of the exhaust stack--that kept rainwater, snow, even the morning dew out of the exhaust system.

Art

[Rob Hall]

I like old tractors..my Dad's old John Deere 2010 had a vertical exhaust but no flap cover.   He used it around the family country place to mow (with a brush hog attachment) , plow the 3/4 mile long driveway in winter, etc.   

[cowboy rich]

I know with the exhaust question the 3 we had it was weed burner set up because ours all ran in orchards in WA. state so upright exhaust could harm low hanging fruit 

Looks like a nice tractor, I want one!

Rich

[Junkman]

OK, I got mine today and contrary to anyone else on here, actually read the instructions.

The kit contains parts for two versions:

A. 1946 - 1956 Ferguson TE 20 - the TE stands for Tractor England. These were painted completely grey by the factory.

B. 1957 - 1958 Ferguson FF 30 - built by Hotchkiss in France for Massey-Harris-Ferguson France. These differed in several details from the TE 20
    and only the bonnet, mudguards and wheels were painted grey, the rest red.
    They were built from 100% French components, no parts were imported from England. Hence the differences.

Both versions can be built with the following options:

1. Either the low horizontal exhaust, or the vertical one, this option could also be specified on the real ones.

2. "Early" or "late" front tyres. Sadly the instructions don't say when the switch exactly was, but I assume the TE 20 would have the early ones,
    the FF30 the late ones.

[Chuck Most]

Had a blast building mine. And yes, I did take a few liberties.

[shoopdog]

Fantastic looking build Chuck. Would be easy to pass as the real deal.

[Bennyg]

Very nice Chuck. Love the wiring.

Ben