1925 dodge - DONE

[landman]

Rummaged through the parts bins. found a Duesenberg frame which has similar attributes to the Dodge's.

Shortened it to the Dodge's 161"

Made some Dodge looking crossmembers.

It sorta looks like the Dodge frame.

 

Edited November 30, 2020 by landman

[#1 model citizen]

Looks like you got a very good start. The frame looks like the real thing. This is quite an ambitious project. I will be following along...

[alan barton]

I would be definitely looking at the Beverley Hillbillies kit for more parts and inspiration.  It was supposedly based on about a 24 or 25 Oldsmobile if I recall and the grille and fender shapes are close to what you need for the Dodge - better than the Model T I suspect.  I would also be using any Revell or AMT Model A four cylinder to replicate the Dodge powerplant.  (The Revell motor from a 29 Pickup or 30 Tudor/Woody/Delivery is far more detailed with more separate parts that you wont have to grind off like you would with the AMT). From your photos the block and head are very similar in shape and detail but you would be up for scratchbuilding or kitbashing a new front cover.  The Olds also comes with very detailed wooden spoke wheels that may be better than the Model items in your coupe kit. Finally, the Olds cowl might graft onto the T coupe body to get more swoop into it and to match the Olds hood. Finally, I would look at the Revell 27 T Tudor, Delivery or touring kits for the rear fenders as they have a very similar cross section to the Oldsmobile ones.

I agree with your choice of the AMT T coupe - I think if you bulk up the sides and the top of the turtledeck area with sheet styrene you should be able to file it up to match the Dodge contours.

Hope that helps - I loved what you did with the frame!

Cheers

Alan

[Ridge Rider]

Neat project- I really like the first reference pic and hope you can show us how it's done.

[landman]

Neat project- I really like the first reference pic and hope you can show us how it's done.

The first reference pic was just taken off the internet.

[landman]

I would be definitely looking at the Beverley Hillbillies kit for more parts and inspiration.  It was supposedly based on about a 24 or 25 Oldsmobile if I recall and the grille and fender shapes are close to what you need for the Dodge - better than the Model T I suspect.  I would also be using any Revell or AMT Model A four cylinder to replicate the Dodge powerplant.  (The Revell motor from a 29 Pickup or 30 Tudor/Woody/Delivery is far more detailed with more separate parts that you wont have to grind off like you would with the AMT). From your photos the block and head are very similar in shape and detail but you would be up for scratchbuilding or kitbashing a new front cover.  The Olds also comes with very detailed wooden spoke wheels that may be better than the Model items in your coupe kit. Finally, the Olds cowl might graft onto the T coupe body to get more swoop into it and to match the Olds hood. Finally, I would look at the Revell 27 T Tudor, Delivery or touring kits for the rear fenders as they have a very similar cross section to the Oldsmobile ones.

I agree with your choice of the AMT T coupe - I think if you bulk up the sides and the top of the turtledeck area with sheet styrene you should be able to file it up to match the Dodge contours.

Hope that helps - I loved what you did with the frame!

Cheers

Alan

Thanks Alan. Found an excellent head-on photo of a grille shell. I'll scratchbuild that part. I don't have any model A around but several Ts. That will have to do. Thanks for the suggestions.

[landman]

Working on the engine tonight. Cut off the T's side water pipe. Added some height to the block to match the Dodge's.

Removed the oil pan, bell housing and transmission. Made the front of the Dodge bell housing using a button. Made up a transmission using the front of the T's and the rear of a Ford three speed. Turned the front u-joint housing out of a piece of sprue.

Edited November 30, 2020 by landman

[misterNNL]

Looks like  you have some great visual images to start with.That side engine drawing is very nice and should give some opportuinys for proportionan scratch building.Those cross members look very correct and sturdy as heck.Good luck and thanks for posting your pergress.

[landman]

Looks like  you have some great visual images to start with.That side engine drawing is very nice and should give some opportuinys for proportionan scratch building.Those cross members look very correct and sturdy as heck.Good luck and thanks for posting your pergress.

That drawing is agodsend, and it just told me the rear part of the bellhousing needs to be shortened. 

[Eric Macleod]

This is really impressive work. I look forward to the next installment. 

[alan barton]

No worries Pat.  I've seen your scratchbuilding skills on all your workshop machinery so I don't think you will have any problems mastering this conversion, no matter what you start with.

Just for reference, here's what the Oldsmobile front clip looks like.

Cheers

Alan

[horsepower]

You might get one of the AMT/MPC Connoisseur Classic 1932 Chevrolet roadsters, it has the same basic suspension but in a much closer to the proper scale than the big Chrysler and Plymouth roadsters.

[horsepower]

I was going to suggest that you might get one of the AMT/MPC Connoisseur Classic 1932 Chevrolet roadsters, it has the same basic suspension but in a much closer to the proper scale than the big Chrysler and Plymouth roadsters.  BUT you're doing an outstanding job on it already. What I get for coming to the party late ?

[landman]

Modified an oil pan to look like the Dodge's. Made up the oil filler tube out of a trumpet horn. The '25 Dodge has a short, one run intake manifols. This header from the AMT Lamborghini Diablo will provide the making of one.

 

 

Edited December 1, 2020 by landman

[Del Austin]

Looks great so far. Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but in addition to the AMT 25 Tall T kit for the basic body, the cowl structure looks similar to a 28-29 Ford (Revell 29 Pickup) and the fenders are similar to a 26-27 Ford (Revell and AMT both have versions)

 

[landman]

Fabricated a carburetor.

The shortened bell/housing transmission assembly.

The Ford engine already has something that could work for the water pump drive. It is just a matter of reshaping it a bit. Made a pulley on the lathe and a water pump body out of solder.

Edited December 1, 2020 by landman

[gotnitro?]

Amazing work so far ! 

[John Goschke]

Wow!  Impressive work on this ambitious project!

[Spex84]

This thread is very entertaining to watch! Great scratchbuilding. Just the other day I was looking at photos of a '25 Dodge and wondering how hard it would be to create some alternative '20s model car bodies...Dodge, Essex, etc....because they're all pretty similar to Ford in general shape, just with variations in visors, beltline trim, trunk lid design...ok, quite different after all!

This is very ambitious and I look forward to seeing where it goes!

 

[Mr Dedo]

Wow! Now that is great craftsmanship!

[landman]

Working at shaping the bellhousing to frame outriggers.

Water pump, distributor and coil mocked up. It will all straighten up once glued.

 

Edited December 1, 2020 by landman

[Cpt Tuttle]

I'm as impressed as always when people scratch build models that does not exist in scale, nice!

[landman]

Thanks guys. I'm having fun. Hope fully the intended owner will like it too.

[Foxer]

This will be fun and interesting watching your skills on this one.

Funny the engine is getting built first!   The boys in your garage must need work.

[landman]

This will be fun and interesting watching your skills on this one.

Funny the engine is getting built first!   The boys in your garage must need work.

I'm going to have to talk to them.There are several things that are out of proportion when compared to the photo of the real engine.That is a result of not having stock in all the sizes. Nercessary compromise.