SfanGoch Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Rob Hall said: Technology can also make it more complicated, which is what I like Which only means it's more prone to breaking down. The K.I.S.S. principle is a tried and true method used for years. Why does a computer-controlled car require more maintenance than a primitive lead sled from the past? More krap which can fail at the drop of a hat. The more complex a piece of equipment is, the greater the chance that there will be a failure.
SfanGoch Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: I'm working on an EMP app... Can it core a apple?
SfanGoch Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 Isn't that a fancy term for whoopie cushion?
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, SfanGoch said: Which only means it's more prone to breaking down. The K.I.S.S. principle is a tried and true method used for years. Why does a computer-controlled car require more maintenance than a primitive lead sled from the past? More krap which can fail at the drop of a hat. The more complex a piece of equipment is, the greater the chance that there will be a failure. Heresy. Everyone under 35 KNOWS that if it's not insanely complex, it's useless crapp from the dark ages, and only ignorant Luddites hopelessly stuck in the past have any use for things with no touch screens, or that can't be accessed from your phone. Repeat after me: new is good, even if it defies all common sense. For instance: a digital camera and an LED screen, with a microprocessor to run them, are VASTLY superior to a ridiculously outdated mirror. Consume...consume...consume...dispose...dispose...dispose... Edited January 23, 2018 by Ace-Garageguy
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rob Hall said: I'd like to have a brown noise weapon. I first thought you said a brown NOSE weapon.
SfanGoch Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Repeat after me: new is good, even if it defies all common sense. A camera and a screen are VASTLY superior to a hopelessly outdated mirror, for instance. Consume...consume...consume...dispose...dispose...dispose...
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, SfanGoch said: Can it core a apple? No, but it ought to me able to melt a Mac.
Rob Hall Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 'Brown noise' is a mythical sound that based on the tone/pitch can cause spontaneous diarrhea when it is heard. Would be a great weapon to clear a room.
SfanGoch Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Yup, a whoopie cushion. Edited January 23, 2018 by SfanGoch
SfanGoch Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: No, but it ought to me able to melt a Mac. Swell! I'll take a dozen!
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Rob Hall said: 'Brown noise' is a mythical sound that based on the tone/pitch can cause spontaneous diarrhea when it is heard... So when the crossword needs two short words meaning "political rhetoric"...
peteski Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 With all those wonderful Internet-connected IoT devices you will also have IoT hackers doing all sorts of things to your precious thermostats, refrigerators, washing machines and toilets. Like turning on the cold-water bidet function when you least expected. All I know is that with all all these gadgets around us, we are in for one fun ride in the near future. I also get a kick of that find-my-phone app. When you lose your schmart-device, where do you run your app? In your head? You need another computing device with the access to the app.
Rob Hall Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, peteski said: I also get a kick of that find-my-phone app. When you lose your schmart-device, where do you run your app? In your head? You need another computing device with the access to the app. Yes, laptop, tablet, etc. Through any web browser.
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, peteski said: I also get a kick of that find-my-phone app. When you lose your schmart-device, where do you run your app? In your head? You need another computing device with the access to the app. If you had one of these "Clapper" key-finder things strapped to your phone, you'd be in like Flint.
SfanGoch Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 No need for a find-my-phone app. Apply the K.I.S. S. principle How to prevent one from losing his iCrap devise : Use a dummy cord It's called a dummy cord for obvious reasons. You appear less stupid than you really are because you won't lose your friggin' phone at the artisanal kaleteria or while attending your weekly flugelhorn repair course.
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, SfanGoch said: ... Apply the K.I.S. S. principle... ...Use a dummy cord... How appropriate...
Snake45 Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Rob Hall said: Better than a touchscreen would be wifi and and an app. So you can see the temperature and diagnostics of the water heater remotely. And adjust the temperature, though I've never had a reason to adjust a water heater. They are just sort of there until they fail... Aaaaaaaand, my point is made.
Earl Marischal Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 We've got 'em this side of the pond too. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-42787789 steve
espo Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 A couple of thoughts. #1 The "barking dog" from Takuda, is this the same company making the Air Bags in your car ?? If so would you really want one of those. #2 This whole APP thing on your phone. I see the possibility of advantages, but can't these things be broken into while you order your Latte at Starbucks ? I don't know if anyone else saw the bit on the Today show a few weeks back when they were showing the faults of the new UPS delivery system that allowed you to unlock your door and see who was delivering the package. It showed just how easy it was to hack the system to where you don't see them removing the TV and furniture from your house. So now you're going to arm your home security system, open and close your garage doors, and even start your car from your phone. What could possibly go wrong ????
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, espo said: ... What could possibly go wrong ???? The current reality of IoT security vulnerability...but hey, it's cool, it's hip, it's happening...and it's beyond stupid. https://qz.com/901823/the-easy-way-your-smart-coffee-machine-could-get-hacked-and-ruin-your-life/ https://www.iotforall.com/5-worst-iot-hacking-vulnerabilities/ https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/01/500253637/an-experiment-shows-how-quickly-the-internet-of-things-can-be-hacked Edited January 23, 2018 by Ace-Garageguy
Rob Hall Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, espo said: A couple of thoughts. #1 The "barking dog" from Takuda, is this the same company making the Air Bags in your car ?? If so would you really want one of those. #2 This whole APP thing on your phone. I see the possibility of advantages, but can't these things be broken into while you order your Latte at Starbucks ? I don't know if anyone else saw the bit on the Today show a few weeks back when they were showing the faults of the new UPS delivery system that allowed you to unlock your door and see who was delivering the package. It showed just how easy it was to hack the system to where you don't see them removing the TV and furniture from your house. So now you're going to arm your home security system, open and close your garage doors, and even start your car from your phone. What could possibly go wrong ???? The air bag company is Takada, IIRC. And there are a lot of security challenges with IoT.
Rob Hall Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: The current reality of IoT security vulnerability...but hey, it's cool, it's hip, it's happening...and it's beyond stupid. https://qz.com/901823/the-easy-way-your-smart-coffee-machine-could-get-hacked-and-ruin-your-life/ https://www.iotforall.com/5-worst-iot-hacking-vulnerabilities/ https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/01/500253637/an-experiment-shows-how-quickly-the-internet-of-things-can-be-hacked Yes, as with any internet connected technology, there are security challenges that have to be addressed with IoT. But 20 years ago there were people poo-pooing internet banking and e-commerce, but those issues have been addressed and internet banking and e-commerce are largely quite secure today..
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 23, 2018 Author Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rob Hall said: Yes, as with any internet connected technology, there are security challenges that have to be addressed with IoT. But 20 years ago there were people poo-pooing internet banking and e-commerce, but those issues have been addressed and internet banking and e-commerce are largely quite secure today.. Which is why I specifically said the CURRENT state of IoT security. But to foist this crapp off on a largely ignorant public BEFORE the security vulnerabilities have been adequately addressed borders on being criminally negligent, if it's not entirely so. I don't give a damm if somebody thinks they HAVE to have an app to flush the internet-connected toilet or start the internet-connected coffee pot or communicate meaningfully with the internet-connected dishwasher...people have historically wasted money on garbage like beanie-babies and any number of other trendy but essentially useless acquisitions too...but the potential problems and risks of the IoT need to be addressed, and at least UNDERSTOOD by the consuming masses being targeted...and I mean that in BOTH senses. Edited January 23, 2018 by Ace-Garageguy
Mike999 Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Like everything in life, the Find-My-Phone app can have unintended consequences... "The husband of an alleged cheating wife said he used the “Find My iPhone” app on his phone while looking for a gadget his son misplaced, but along with finding the item, he found his wife in bed with another man. New York Post reports that Sean Donis, 37, located his son’s iPad while using the app, which led him to a master bedroom in Rockland County, New York, home, where he found his naked wife in bed with the owner of the home, his former boss." http://www.crimeonline.com/2017/09/05/husband-catches-wife-cheating-via-phone-app-and-now-faces-charges-of-unlawful-surveillance/
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