Monogram Shelby cobra brake master cylinder?

[426 pack]

I am building the monogram Shelby cobra and I was wondering where the brake master cylinder is located and what it looks like? 

Thanks.

[vamach1]

Does the kit come with one.  I do not remember. 

[426 pack]

16 minutes ago, vamach1 said:

Does the kit come with one.  I do not remember. 

I don’t think it dose. I’m just wondering where it would be on a 1:1 and what it looks like so I know where I can put one.

[Mark]

Try looking at the underside of the interior, or on the chassis, roughly underneath where the brake pedal would be in the interior.  I'm pretty certain it's under the floor as opposed to on the firewall.

[Ace-Garageguy]

The real 289 (and the 427 I believe, but it's been a LONG time since I worked on one) located the brake and clutch fluid reservoirs at the front of the LH footbox (on the left-hand-drive cars, obviously), which fed the master cylinders (through flexible lines) mounted down low on frame brackets. This shot shows the reservoirs visible just above the air filter.

I haven't been able to find a good shot of the REAL master cylinders mounted. The kit replicas mounted them all over the place, with a variety of different brackets and pedal geometry.

Edited January 24, 2018 by Ace-Garageguy

[Ace-Garageguy]

Though these are Wilwood master cylinders for a Kirkham replica (the most accurate replica out there), they are very similar to the real ones.

They live on the front of a box bracket under the floor...

The pedal box under the driver's floor looks pretty much like this from the underside. You can just see the master cylinders sticking forward from it, and nubs on the sides that represent the pivot shaft for the pedals.

This is the Kirkham pedal box installed. On REAL Cobras, the pedal box was not removable, nor was the bottom of the thing. It's a nightmare to work on one while you're wedged in under the steering wheel.

This shows the master cylinders bolted to the pedal box / bracket. You should be able to figure out what's going on from these shots.

 

 

[426 pack]

Thanks guy that helps a lot.

[Ace-Garageguy]

36 minutes ago, 426 pack said:

Thanks guy that helps a lot.

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[peteski]

I had to scratchbuild the fluid reservoirs and master cylinders in the Monogram 1:43 289 Cobra. I used styrene rod.  This view shows the reservoirs (I don't have any photos of the master cylinders).

 

While unrelated, this brings another question for the Cobra experts: What is that cylinder mounted on top of the the right foot-well? On my model it is metallic blue.  In Bill's photo (few posts earlier) it is black with a gray screw-on cap.  Sort of looks like bicycle air pump.

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Its a grease gun.

Edited January 25, 2018 by afx

[MrObsessive]

Years ago, when I was building my Cougar II kit, I wondered the same thing. I had to pretty much "fudge it", as I didn't have pics at the time of the master cylinder, but relied a bit on logic as I knew it had to be floor mounted. Seems as though I was close!

[peteski]

On 1/25/2018 at 6:15 AM, afx said:

Its a grease gun.

LOL!  For those on-the-road lube jobs!   I knew that some older cars (from the '20s and '30s) had manual oilers stored in the engine compartment, but I didn't realize that more modern car would carry a grease gun.  I'm glad that I modeled it, even without knowing what it was.