ChrisBcritter Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, alexis said: Drat. So I need a resin copy of the Ram Tubes from the Johan kit. Well, I'll start looking for some. Here you go - Jo-Han used the long rams for a few years in their Chrysler kits: https://www.ebay.com/itm/JO-HAN-1967-CHRYSLER-300-ORIGINAL-CROSS-RAM-ENGINE-NOS-KIT-C1467-CIRCA-1967/233258749858?hash=item364f4e0fa2:g:GeQAAOSwMT5dBXdA
stavanzer Posted June 17, 2019 Author Posted June 17, 2019 Hart's Parts Resin has one. https://hartspartsresin.com/product/johan-chrysler-cross-ram-intake/ But, it looks like it won't fit, so............. Back to the Lindberg Cross Ram.
gtx6970 Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jon Haigwood said: Ram Induction on a 413 That intake was NOT avail in a 1962 Dodge Dart, period. That was full size Mopar cars ONLY 3 hours ago, ChrisBcritter said: Here you go - Jo-Han used the long rams for a few years in their Chrysler kits: https://www.ebay.com/itm/JO-HAN-1967-CHRYSLER-300-ORIGINAL-CROSS-RAM-ENGINE-NOS-KIT-C1467-CIRCA-1967/233258749858?hash=item364f4e0fa2:g:GeQAAOSwMT5dBXdA Might have come in the Kits, but that intake was long gone by 1967 in ANY body style Mopar. I think 1962, ( maybe 1963 ) was the last year avail Edited June 17, 2019 by gtx6970
Jon Haigwood Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 Like I said before, "If you want to go by the song lyrics go Ram Induction OR build it the way you want"
Jon Haigwood Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, gtx6970 said: That intake was NOT avail in a 1962 Dodge Dart, period. That was full size Mopar cars ONLY Might have come in the Kits, but that intake was long gone by 1967 in ANY body style Mopar. I think 1962, ( maybe 1963 ) was the last year avail I did not say it was, As far as that goes Dart was never mentioned in the song.
JollySipper Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 Something I've never understood about the long ram induction..... it put the carbs right over the exhaust manifolds/headers..... Wouldn't that heat the intake charge? I always thought you wanted that as cool as you could get it....
stavanzer Posted June 18, 2019 Author Posted June 18, 2019 Gabe, I checked Drag City before I tried Harts Parts. There may be other who re-cast it too. Harts was just the first I found.
Vietnam Vet67 Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, JollySipper said: Something I've never understood about the long ram induction..... it put the carbs right over the exhaust manifolds/headers..... Wouldn't that heat the intake charge? I always thought you wanted that as cool as you could get it.... In theory that is true. But back then they were worried that the fuel wouldn't vaporize completely going through those long runners to the engine. We installed heating tubes from the exhaust manifolds to the bottom of the carburetor mounting area to help atomize the fuel and make sure it didn't cool down too much. I worked on that project in the Performance dynos at the Chrysler Tech Center back then. Check out the picture in the above post by GTX6970 and look under each carb and you will see a pipe going into the intake manifold. Here is another picture showing the heating tubes. Edited June 18, 2019 by Vietnam Vet67
gtx6970 Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Jon Haigwood said: I did not say it was, As far as that goes Dart was never mentioned in the song. Never said you did. But. Ramcharger... Ram induction ..... Super stock. .....Max wedge or what every you prefer to call it. Was not avail in anything besides the B body platform. Aka. Dart. Belvedere . Fury...etc etc
Jon Haigwood Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, gtx6970 said: Never said you did. But. Ramcharger... Ram induction ..... Super stock. .....Max wedge or what every you prefer to call it. Was not avail in anything besides the B body platform. Aka. Dart. Belvedere . Fury...etc etc I never said it was
gtx6970 Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jon Haigwood said: I never said it was Jon Stop. Im not trying to be a dick. Im just trying to say....that If one goes by the theory of the song. Meaning 413 ram induction or super stock or how ever it's worded (im not a beach boys fan and dont know the song ) Your bldg a Dart. And if its a 413. Its a max wedge .
Jon Haigwood Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, gtx6970 said: Jon Stop. Im not trying to be a dick. Im just trying to say....that If one goes by the theory of the song. Meaning 413 ram induction or super stock or how ever it's worded (im not a beach boys fan and dont know the song ) Your bldg a Dart. And if its a 413. Its a max wedge . Not trying to be a dick either, Just saying If you are building to the exact sing lyrics, you need a Super Stock Dodge (which happens to be that they were only Darts) , a 413 and Ram induction. The whole thing together is not correct but it is the song lyrics. I just pointed out what a Ram Induction was and provided a picture for reference as that was asked by the OP. A lot of builds are not "correct" because we build them for our own enjoyment. It's all good
Snake45 Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, Jon Haigwood said: Not trying to be a dick either, Just saying If you are building to the exact sing lyrics, you need a Super Stock Dodge (which happens to be that they were only Darts) , a 413 and Ram induction. The whole thing together is not correct but it is the song lyrics. I just pointed out what a Ram Induction was and provided a picture for reference as that was asked by the OP. A lot of builds are not "correct" because we build them for our own enjoyment. It's all good Kinda like Springsteen's "' '69 Chevy with a 396, fuelie heads and a Hurst on the floor." Or how about this from Warren Zevon's "Roll with the Punches": "Johnny had a '57 Chevy, four on the floor and a 429." A 429? Why? Because it had to rhyme in the next lyric: "We used to take it out on Wild Horse Pike, run it out to the end of the line." As you said, it's all good.
Jon Haigwood Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 Well for a real challenge try building Jan & Deans "Schlock Rod" Schlock Rod! Schlock Rod! I own a '48 Buick and it's olive green Schlock Rod! (Oooh! Oooh!) All the kids on the block say it sure looks keen Schlock Rod! (Oooh! Oooh!) There's big chrome stars on the side of the hood And those six extra taillights sure look good! Schlock Rod! Schock Rod! I, er buy all my car parts from a mail-order house Schlock Rod! (Oooh! Oooh!) And everybody says my car is sure Mickey Mouse Mickey Mouse! (Squeak Squeak!) I got lights in my wheel wells and Portawalls I burn cheap gas and she always... stalls Schlock Rod Schlock Rod I got one big truck tire that's low on air (That's cool! Cool! Cool!) Makes her sit a little lopsided, but I don't care! Schlock Rod! (Squeak! Squeak!) I got twin antennies with a raccoon tails Spare in the trunk, well, it's full of nails Schlock Rod! Schlock Rod! Look at us go Goodness gracious, we're traveling fast! Schlock Rod Zippity zip down the street Schlock Rod! (Squeak! Squeak!) (You betcha, Red Ryder... Follow me, Muscles) Schlock Rod! (Squeak! Squeak!) Race that Honda Don't wind her up too much Oh, oh, oh oh Take him! I can feel the vibrations We're gonna take off, I bet you I wouldn't bet you... Schlock Rod! Schlock Rod! Zipping around wet corners I can make her brody Schlock Rod! (Oooh! Oooh!) And then I stop at the drug store, well Just for a sody (That rhyme...Ewwww! Ewwww!) With a bright orange bug deflector with a great big jewel When I make the drive-in scene, I sure am cool! Schlock Rod! Look at me, I'm hep! Schlock Rod! I just bought a propeller for the front of my grille (That's swingy... Hi, boys, it flies!) Well, looks so nifty makes my heart stand still (Ahhhh...Uhhhh?) And if you ask me if it's slow I won't lie I can shut down any Honda With the uh, wink of my eye! Schlock Rod! Schlock Rod!
ChrisBcritter Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 Here you go - get busy! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Danbury-Mint-1-24-1948-Buick-Roadmaster-Coupe-Nickel-Gray/264359617723?hash=item3d8d0fa4bb:g:wVkAAOSwgqRc11wW
dieseldog1970 Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 A long time ago...….Mopar Action actually raced a fuelie vette and a '62 Dodge on the track at Englishtown......and the song is wrong...the Dodge beat the snot out of the Vette!!! I can't wait to see this get built.....!!!!
Straightliner59 Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/17/2019 at 7:47 PM, Snake45 said: "Johnny had a '57 Chevy, four on the floor and a 429." A 429? Why? Clearly, he installed an engine from a Revell Corvette!
Snake45 Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Straightliner59 said: Clearly, he installed an engine from a Revell Corvette! And with that, you Win The Internet!
gtx6970 Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 4 hours ago, dieseldog1970 said: A long time ago...….Mopar Action actually raced a fuelie vette and a '62 Dodge on the track at Englishtown......and the song is wrong...the Dodge beat the snot out of the Vette!!! I can't wait to see this get built.....!!!! To funny, Wasnt a Vette made in '62 that stood any kind of chance against a 62 Dodge Max wedge. UNLESS it hard a sharp corner at the end.
The Junkman Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Given the time frame of "Little Old Lady from Pasadena" I have always visualized this car, or one just like it. Maybe a 1963. Change my mind.
Straightliner59 Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Snake45 said: And with that, you Win The Internet! Yay!
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