Mark Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 ALL of the stock '68-'70 AMX annual kits were sold in AMT boxes. There was one '68, two '69s, and two '70s. The two '69 kits had the same parts and decals, just different boxes and different stock numbers (same for 1970). The first two-seater AMX sold in Jo-Han packaging was the original issue of the Shirley Shahan Super Stocker, in 1971. The only street version they sold was the USA Oldies issue, and that one didn't have stock wheels.
dimaxion Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 9:44 PM, Snake45 said: I just scored a Shirley Shahan on ePay for $38. Never built, never painted. Looks like it's missing the Cragar wheels and only shows 3 tires, not a huge deal. The taillights might be missing, too, but all the rest of important stuff is there, so still a good deal. I can't remember the last time I saw one go for under $50 and asking prices seem to be in the $90 range. Just remembered, a friend of mine has a real one and has been looking for the model. He's a very good builder and painter and I'd feel okay turning it over to him. Wonder if he's got anything interesting to swap for it, hmmmmmmm? Snake , IIRC Marc Nellis offers the Javelin / AMX , '68/'69 MY's .. Thanx
dimaxion Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Here are my AMC Pony Cars I've built so far . The fronts are the same on the '71/'74 Javelin AMX Cars . The '73/'74 Has the Hurst Optional Wheels . I don't like them and plan to change them put . The '68 AMX is sporting absolutely wrong Aftermarket Wheels . Since I found out the Visually determinable difference between '69 vs '69 . The Black Out changed to Wood Grain Trim . This Interior change I plan too swap the wheels for the AMC Turbine Road Wheels . Thanx ..
stavanzer Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 John, those are some clean builds. Way to go with your AMC collection.
Snake45 Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 I just got an ERTL '68 AMX kit cheap. It's 1/24 but did I mention it was CHEAP? I hope to get it knocked together soon. (Oddly, it's called a Javelin on the box, but it's definitely an AMX.)
Mark Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 The Ertl kit is an unassembled diecast. The Jo-Han AMX is also 1/24 scale (the promo boxes say so, and the ones I put a ruler to measure out to 1/24) so it will be interesting to see how they compare.
Snake45 Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Mark said: The Ertl kit is an unassembled diecast. In other words, a kit.
mk11 Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 6:00 PM, gtx6970 said: I for one ( doubt I'm alone here ) would LOVE to find a clean 1970 AMX builder Got mine A gift pretty much out of the blue from a friend...
Motor City Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 I should have kept the box from my '70. At least I kept the car (Big Bad Orange with a black interior). I painted it with Testor's paint and it actually came out well.
magicmustang Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Built one many years ago. Johan '69 AMX Shirley Shahan.. Edited October 25, 2019 by magicmustang
Snake45 Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 12:54 PM, Mark said: The Jo-Han AMX is also 1/24 scale (the promo boxes say so, and the ones I put a ruler to measure out to 1/24) so it will be interesting to see how they compare. VERY interesting! I've had a JoHAn AMX on my shelf for decades and it never occurred to me that it looked "big." Haven't been able to do any actual measuring, but last night I was able to compare the diecast ERTL body with a JoHan kit body (unbuilt) and they're virtually identical in size--nothing like the typical 1/24-1/25 difference I'm so familiar with. So I wonder if the JoHan Javelins are 1/24, too? Hmmmmmmm......
Mark Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 All Jo-Han AMC promos (and the resulting kits) tooled from 1961 on are 1/24 scale. I don't bother with promos molded in acetate, but someone once told me that the '62 Classic wagon was based on the '59 wagon (and thus 1/25 scale) while the '62 Classic sedan (the one reissued as the snap taxi kit) is 1/24, meaning things like bumpers don't interchange. The Jo-Han '62 Larks are bigger yet, something like 1/23. Larks aren't big cars. And even the "big" mid-Sixties Ramblers are the same size as Big Three intermediates.
Motor City Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 I have a '65 Classic 4-door promo and the box indicates 1/24th scale. But the '70 AMX kit indicates 1/25th scale on the box. There are also claims that Jo-Han's full-size Cadillac promo models were actually slightly small to fit into the boxes. I threw out a box because the promo fit too tightly in it! I never measured the scale of the '63-'70 Coupe deVilles.
Mark Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 Jo-Han and AMT (the latter sold all of the annual two-seater AMX kits) called them 1/25, but the AMC promo boxes (not the toy store friction car boxes with the cellophane window) all say 1/24. The ones I put a ruler to measure out as 1/24 scale in the areas I checked (usually wheelbase or overall length). Some of the Cadillacs are likely cheated up in that the lower bodies look stubby compared to the roof. I'm thinking of the '61-'62 mainly. That may have been done to fit the box, or to make the car look more to scale with existing tires. Jo-Han used the same tire on the Cadillacs and Studebaker Larks...something's got to give, both can't look right with the same tire! Other kits with no promo model connection are undersize also...let's just say "1/25 scale" in regard to car kits is a "fluid" concept.
ChrisBcritter Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Mark said: Some of the Cadillacs are likely cheated up in that the lower bodies look stubby compared to the roof. I'm thinking of the '61-'62 mainly. That may have been done to fit the box, or to make the car look more to scale with existing tires. Jo-Han used the same tire on the Cadillacs and Studebaker Larks...something's got to give, both can't look right with the same tire! Re the tires: Caddies and Studebakers did both use 15" wheels... Re the bodies, here's the Jo-Han '60 Fleetwood vs. the Revellogram '59 Eldo: Width very close, length very off.
stavanzer Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 I'll just drop this here. https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/78703562
dave branson Posted October 26, 2019 Posted October 26, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 10:28 AM, Casey said: Here's the JO-HAN '70 AMX kit re-boxed by AMT: I got a builder of one of these 2 years ago at Heartland it is a builder but complete paid 35 and was happy to do so.
djflyer Posted October 31, 2019 Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Picked these two up at the WAMC show/swap last weekend. Both were under $35 and complete and unbuilt. I did measure them and they both came up with a fraction of 24th scale (the SC/Rambler is a bit narrow from listed specs). I had never heard of the "Pro Street AMX kit before. Edited October 31, 2019 by djflyer
Motor City Posted November 1, 2019 Posted November 1, 2019 David, All of the AMX reissues using the 1969 body have the 1970 (high-back bucket seats in a different pattern) interior.
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