STYRENE-SURFER Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 I did have a link to were to order these from at one time(was it a model railway seller?) Some how I lost the thread that mentioned them. Can't remember but I do know when looking at the website a year or so ago I had a hard time figuring out exactly what to order as far as sizes go for typical 1/25th scale stuff. if you know the link/company and can advise me the sizes you prefer it would be much appreciated. Another question, is there anyone who makes hex nuts in the same scale? ?
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) MasterClub makes a nice selection. You can buy them on eBay. There is an Eastern European source but I don't have the web address handy. Tichy Train Group makes a limited range of sizes too. Also available on eBay, or direct https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop/tabid/91/c/ho_nbw--rivets/Default.aspx Far as knowing what size to order...just measure the size of the real bolt head you want to model and divide by 25. Edited August 12, 2020 by Ace-Garageguy
STYRENE-SURFER Posted August 12, 2020 Author Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) Thanx Bill, I would bet it was on one of your threads that I saw those. To be honest,, my brain has a hard time scaling things. As an ex machinist where dealing with ten thousands ( tenths of thousandths ,oops) of an inch has ruined my ability to settle on what looks right. And there is a difference between perfect scale and perceived scale....Blah Blah Blah? What sizes do you normally use? Only asking cause I know you are a car guy. Edited August 12, 2020 by STYRENE-SURFER Hey, I was a bit tired when typing this
peteski Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 The bolt/nuts from Tichy will have sizes specified in model RR scales (like H0 or similar).
Dave Van Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 Tichy and Grandt Line both make MANY sizes. If you look under 'O' scale, which is 1/48 scale, then you can get an idea what size you need in 1/24-1/25. A 2" bolt in O scale is a 1" bolt in 1/24. I have a box full of these things
Mike999 Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) MENG also makes a bunch of nuts and bolts in different sizes. They call them "Small" and "Large," "Set A & B." These are molded on a resin sheet. You use a chisel blade to slice them off the sheet. That works well, I use these a lot for detailing front suspensions etc. Each sheet has several different sizes of bolts, from tiny to large, with the size called out in millimeters. You can find them on eBay, or some online vendors. This is the MENG "Small Nuts & Hex Bolts, Set A." Edited August 12, 2020 by Mike999 goof
64SS350 Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) Meng also makes some nice ones. Well, there you go...! Edited August 12, 2020 by 64SS350
Deuces ll Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, STYRENE-SURFER said: Thanx Bill, I would bet it was on one of your threads that I saw those. To be honest,, my brain has a hard time scaling things. As an ex machinist where dealing with ten thousands of an inch has ruined my ability to settle on what looks right. And there is a difference between perfect scale and perceived scale....Blah Blah Blah? What sizes do you normally use? Only asking cause I know you are a car guy. WoW, I should ask for a raise at work... We deal in tenths of a thou.... .0001" or .00254 mm.... No wonder why I'm going blind in my right eye.... ??? Edited August 12, 2020 by Deuces ll
STYRENE-SURFER Posted August 12, 2020 Author Posted August 12, 2020 Thanx everyone, now I recall the difficulty I was having looking at these (a year or so ago) it was the RR scales. 6 hours ago, Deuces ll said: WoW, I should ask for a raise at work... We deal in tenths of a thou.... .0001" or .00254 mm.... No wonder why I'm going blind in my right eye.... ??? Guido Tenths of thousandths is what I meant to type. Some times tolerances were within .0005" , my vision is not what it used to be don't know if it's from the years of deburring tiny medical parts with a lupe or just old age?
Deuces ll Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 I also have a Lupe set for when I'm checking a micro finish... But, it's gotten to the point where I have to use a magnifying glass to read a micrometer... ????
peteski Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 Optivisor solves vision problems. Trust me - I'm addicted to mine.
Dave Van Posted August 12, 2020 Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, peteski said: Optivisor solves vision problems. Trust me - I'm addicted to mine. When Dad passed and I cleaned out his workshop I found a Opti-visor. I didn't realize how much I needed one until I started using his. Dad built models as a kid (balsa) and helped me in the hobby.....and still did after he was gone!!!
Mike999 Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 The MENG hex bolts were used on the tie rod and front axle of this Revell Porsche Jr. farm tractor. Since they're resin being glued to plastic, you do have to use CA/super-glue. I apply a small "dot" of the glue with a sharp toothpick.
STYRENE-SURFER Posted August 13, 2020 Author Posted August 13, 2020 23 hours ago, Mike999 said: The MENG hex bolts were used on the tie rod and front axle of this Revell Porsche Jr. farm tractor. Since they're resin being glued to plastic, you do have to use CA/super-glue. I apply a small "dot" of the glue with a sharp toothpick. Looks good even through all the mud?? Thanx for the tip? I have to admit CA is my least favorite adhesive when it comes to bonding tiny parts. Have had some mishaps ?
afx Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 Splurged and bought this hex punch set and so glad I did. Makes great bolt head/nut detail. http://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?cPath=21_145&products_id=1870&osCsid=6f323be6fa8fa3c41699f4f32b4c6247 Bolt detail here is a combination of the Tichy bolts and hex punch.
afx Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) Replicas & Miniatures offers two different size acorn nuts cast is resin, the rim bolts are the smaller size. The axle nut was created with the UMM punch above and the lug nuts are hex rod. The larger R&M acorn nuts are used for lug nuts here: Edited August 14, 2020 by afx
SfanGoch Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 On 8/12/2020 at 12:40 AM, Ace-Garageguy said: MasterClub makes a nice selection. You can buy them on eBay. There is an Eastern European source but I don't have the web address handy. Tichy Train Group makes a limited range of sizes too. Also available on eBay, or direct https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop/tabid/91/c/ho_nbw--rivets/Default.aspx Far as knowing what size to order...just measure the size of the real bolt head you want to model and divide by 25. Armor35.ru carries the complete line of MasterClub nuts, bolts and rivets. At the present exchange rate, it's $2.04 per pack of 110-200, depending on the size. There aren't any better available.
STYRENE-SURFER Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 On 8/14/2020 at 4:55 AM, afx said: Splurged and bought this hex punch set and so glad I did. Makes great bolt head/nut detail. That is interesting. question, Is it possible w/that tool to create a proper nut w/hole thru it by drilling first and then punching it out. Oh man that sounds weird but can't think of better way to ask? 3 hours ago, SfanGoch said: Armor35.ru carries the complete line of MasterClub nuts, bolts and rivets. At the present exchange rate, it's $2.04 per pack of 110-200, depending on the size. There aren't any better available. Joe, you have ordered from them? How was your experience if I can ask.
SfanGoch Posted August 17, 2020 Posted August 17, 2020 I order from them regularly. I highly recommend Armor35.
STYRENE-SURFER Posted August 17, 2020 Author Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, SfanGoch said: I order from them regularly. I highly recommend Armor35. Thanx Joe?
bisc63 Posted August 18, 2020 Posted August 18, 2020 Cheat: buy some Evergreen hexagonal styrene rod in .020 and .030, cut into small pieces, glue in place, file down to realistic thickness for nice bolt heads. The ones made by the punch set above are mostly over-sized for typical 1/25 automotive usage, but still usable in places; the smallest one shows .8mm, which scales up to 3/4" - 7/8" ballpark. Most visible fasteners are in the 1/2" - 9/16" range. Just something to chew on...
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 18, 2020 Posted August 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, SfanGoch said: I order from them regularly. I highly recommend Armor35. Probably time for me to lay in a remainder-of-lifetime supply.
STYRENE-SURFER Posted August 18, 2020 Author Posted August 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, bisc63 said: Cheat: buy some Evergreen hexagonal styrene rod in .020 and .030, cut into small pieces, glue in place, file down to realistic thickness for nice bolt heads. The ones made by the punch set above are mostly over-sized for typical 1/25 automotive usage, but still usable in places; the smallest one shows .8mm, which scales up to 3/4" - 7/8" ballpark. Most visible fasteners are in the 1/2" - 9/16" range. Just something to chew on... Thanx for input Rusty, I do have one size of Plastruct hex rod, have got to order more sizes. The best way I have found to file/sand down to thickness is to make a shield (a sheat of styrene) with a hole thru it just big enough for the hex head and place over before sanding. Hope makes sense.
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