absmiami Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 The Andrew White book won’t help - scant coverage of these cars … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, absmiami said: The Andrew White book won’t help - scant coverage of these cars … Thanks for looking it up Andy. I'll go with the info I have and if I'm not 100% correct no big deal. Anyhow with this car not being open cockpit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 A brief update on what little work I have done in the last 2 weeks due to an unscheduled "medical break" Always early in a build I want to deal with the chassis-body relationship and set wheelbase, track and ride height. A chassis mock up and measurements, I will want to drop the ride height by about 2-2,5 mm in the rear and maybe 1-1.5 at the front. (pic with kit wheels) Using 2 mm rods for interaction between chassis axles and the substituted wheels, with slight repositioning to tweak ride height. A small but effective change in my opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Do you think that the ride height on the kit is incorrect for the Jag as produced for sale ? In my limited experience with a late series E w a 12 cyl engine - the ground clearance was minimal - a speed bump was a gigantic hazard … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 More about how I want the car to look than firm knowledge but yes I think the ride height on the kit is on the high side and with some lean not present on production cars or on my race car ref pictures. 11 mm rocker to ground in the rear equates to 10.5 inches. I aimed to bring the top of the rear wheel level to the fender opening and worked out the front to achieve a flat stance. Looking for the model to look a bit like this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Ground clearance for production E couldn’thave been more than 8 inches - probably less - interesting - not surprised - bet you that the Heller kit builds with a more accurate stance … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 17 hours ago, absmiami said: Ground clearance for production E couldn’thave been more than 8 inches - probably less - interesting - not surprised - bet you that the Heller kit builds with a more accurate stance … Just curious Andy, I've never seen the Heller kit, is it better than the Revell? I went with Revell thinking that new tooling would be better than old... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235084453-revell-and-heller-e-types-comparison/ the English gent posting his build of the 1968 Sebring MGC has an older posting in britmodeller that answers these questions rather well ... I built the Heller E drop top in modified form years ago [in the previous century] to make the Sayer designed lightweight coupe - CUT 7 - the Heller kit really does hold up well - but the Revell kit - I've got the roadster in the box - looks good - go for it by the way - both kit engines are OK - but not as good as the XK engine in the Tamiya Mark II kit - so there's that ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJ Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Pierre, I'm glad I'm getting in fairly early on this wip. This is really going to be great. That blue is very deep and stunning. Curious it's not Green? I wonder what the story is behind that. Looking forward to more progress on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew McD Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I will definitely be following this build. The depth of knowledge and attention to detail displayed by the various participants in the discussion of the build just blows me away. What a treat for a novice such as myself to watch and listen to such master craftsmen at work! I have this kit in my stash and expect my generally out of the box build may well be improved by what I learn here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Andrew McD said: I will definitely be following this build. The depth of knowledge and attention to detail displayed by the various participants in the discussion of the build just blows me away. What a treat for a novice such as myself to watch and listen to such master craftsmen at work! I have this kit in my stash and expect my generally out of the box build may well be improved by what I learn here. Thank you Andrew. I do w.i.p. for some of my builds because it offers me the possibility to throw questions to other participants to help me with information or build tips. A lot of helpful craftsmen on the forum help me improve my builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brudda Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 On 1/27/2023 at 5:20 AM, Pierre Rivard said: Thank you Andrew. I do w.i.p. for some of my builds because it offers me the possibility to throw questions to other participants to help me with information or build tips. A lot of helpful craftsmen on the forum help me improve my builds. Love this build! Learning also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 Starting work on the body. the race ace car body is not much different than stock but first I want to make changes enable bonding the front and rear lower clips before body prep and paint so that seam (picture 1) can be dealt with. These seams would be very visible on a bumper less car. On the rear side it basically involves separating the lower body element from the chassis pan. After some experimenting on how the chassis and interior could slide into the rear body portion I just chose my path. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 The front side assembly sequence requires to assemble the bonnet structure & headlamp assembly to the bonnet and then glue in the lower front body piece. I pre-assembled the structure but gave it some relief to allow sliding it into a glued together upper & lower bonnet assembly. Taking the opportunity to use that structure to attach a fabricated inlet grille. I hate that grille but it was on the race car. I used the same method and materials used for the Corvette grille (picture 1). I'll try to make it look a bit thinner with paint effects. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smilesperhour Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Nice work on the grill, an oddity on this racer. Still love that grandsport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Well played 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJ Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Excellent job making a precise pattern to get a precise looking grille. No one will think that grille is not oob. What color were you thinking to make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 2 hours ago, MarkJ said: Excellent job making a precise pattern to get a precise looking grille. No one will think that grille is not oob. What color were you thinking to make it? Not sure yet. Maybe a mix of silver & black or silver with a dark wash. The grill has to be there to reflect the car I am modeling but I want to make it low key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share Posted February 1, 2023 Making the fuel filler. Evergreen 4mm and 2.4 mm tubes, 0.5 x 1.0 flat, 0.5 mm rod and 0.35 mm steel wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJ Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Anothe oob looking part. Actually better than what would have come in the kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Way better … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share Posted February 1, 2023 Not much else was done to the body for 1962 LeMans duty. Location of race type fuel filler on rear hatch next to a cabin fuel tank vent, bug screen deflector and the LeMans style "mud flaps" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeSchumacher Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Looking good Pierre! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 So the rear hatch was probably fixed in place ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 9 hours ago, absmiami said: So the rear hatch was probably fixed in place ?? If the 2008 restoration of this car reflects the original design... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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