1941 Plymouth?

[Dpate]

Is AMT the only one that does that model? It’s trash, and was hoping there was another company out there that happened to do one? 

Edited July 23, 2023 by Dpate

[stavanzer]

It is the only one I know of, and it most  not certainly, 'Trash'.... 

Pretty Nice kit actually. I've built two of them.

[Hi-Po]

I will agree with stavanzer that the kit is not "trash".  I built the kit years ago and I had no problems with it.

[Can-Con]

I've never built one. I don't personally think it' s a particularly attractive car but I've always thought it was a reasonably good kit considering it was tooled up 50 years ago.

If you think that's "trash" compare it with some of the stuff Revell was putting out at that time.

[bobthehobbyguy]

First AMT was the only manufacturer to do a 1941 Plymouth.

Second it would be far more constructive to point out what your objections to the kit are. It would be easier for others to address those issues.

[Classicgas]

Yeah it's not that bad a kit. What are your issues with it?

[Dpate]

The body of kit is good, but the front end is horrible and doesn’t match the real car at all. The grill inserts fit, but with big gaps. The front trim isn’t even even or align, and the hood is ill fitting with a gap on right side. Other than that the tires are great along with the rims. I knew the responses that was gonna come, but was just curious if there was anything else out there is all. Doesn’t matter how much u polish a turd - a turd is still a turd. Thanks for the help.

[junkyardjeff]

Just needs a little finessing to make it better,remember its now a old mold so its not going to be perfect. I recently rebuilt one as a work in progress with a different colored front end so the not so good fitting was not a concern.

[bobthehobbyguy]

12 hours ago, junkyardjeff said:

Just needs a little finessing to make it better,remember its now a old mold so its not going to be perfect. I recently rebuilt one as a work in progress with a different colored front end so the not so good fitting was not a concern.

I agree.

It all  boils down to how much effort you wish to put into a kit and how interested in a particular car you are. The less effort you are willing to put into a kit is going to limit what subject matter you have to build. Doubt you are going to see a Tamiya 1941 Plymouth any time soon.

For what it's worth I've seen some of the 1941 Plymouth and it looks like it builds up into a decent kit.

[Mark]

Some folks' gripe with this kit involve some difficulty in getting the interior and chassis to sit right under the body.  The interior bucket has good attachment points to locate it on the top of the chassis, but attaching chassis to body isn't the most positive.  Turning the finished build upside down reveals a few gaps too.  I've got one that I want to build with a flip front end; I'm going to have to solidify the body/interior/chassis sandwich before even thinking about where to cut the front end.

[JollySipper]

Here's one that our friend Mr. Kendall built into a mild custom......

I've been thinking of getting one myself to do something similar.  

[StevenGuthmiller]

On 7/23/2023 at 1:37 PM, Dpate said:

 Doesn’t matter how much u polish a turd - a turd is still a turd.

These subjects about 50 or 60 year old tools come up all of the time, and the only response that comes to mind is, “there are a lot of these “turds” out there that have been built to very high standards.  It just takes an accomplished and dedicated “polisher”.

 

 

Steve

[Dpate]

3 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

These subjects about 50 or 60 year old tools come up all of the time, and the only response that comes to mind is, “there are a lot of these “turds” out there that have been built to very high standards.  It just takes an accomplished and dedicated “polisher”.

 

 

Steve

That’s true, but my priorities are different than those dedicated accomplished builders. I like the car reason I asked if there were any others out there, but not enough to care that much to spend months on it. I could do it if I wanted too, but that road from start to finish wouldn’t be fun for me. It’s a decent kit, but maybe I got a lemon as I seem to get all the time with AMT - even though I do have a lot of quality AMT kits. I threw away a few though except the tires and rims, cause bodies missing trim work etc etc. I don’t mind cleaning flash and few other things, but I buy kits I like to build them not fix bad engineering or ridiculous mold issues from out dated molds that should be put to rest. It’s my own ignorance getting kits when I was new, and not knowing how old something is. 

[Dpate]

11 hours ago, bobthehobbyguy said:

I agree.

It all  boils down to how much effort you wish to put into a kit and how interested in a particular car you are. The less effort you are willing to put into a kit is going to limit what subject matter you have to build. Doubt you are going to see a Tamiya 1941 Plymouth any time soon.

For what it's worth I've seen some of the 1941 Plymouth and it looks like it builds up into a decent kit.

Yeah that’ll never happen with Tamiya, but would be awesome though. Id buy with no hesitation. 

[StevenGuthmiller]

1 hour ago, Dpate said:

That’s true, but my priorities are different than those dedicated accomplished builders. I like the car reason I asked if there were any others out there, but not enough to care that much to spend months on it. I could do it if I wanted too, but that road from start to finish wouldn’t be fun for me. It’s a decent kit, but maybe I got a lemon as I seem to get all the time with AMT - even though I do have a lot of quality AMT kits. I threw away a few though except the tires and rims, cause bodies missing trim work etc etc. I don’t mind cleaning flash and few other things, but I buy kits I like to build them not fix bad engineering or ridiculous mold issues from out dated molds that should be put to rest. It’s my own ignorance getting kits when I was new, and not knowing how old something is. 

That's where the decisions of the builder come into play.

 

There are a thousand old annual kits that are not exactly up to the standards of today as they were originally created in a "simpler" time, and the molds are often antiquated and ultimately past their prime.

But as there is more often than not only one option for a particular subject, you need to decide early on if it's something that's interesting enough that you'd be willing to put the effort into, or not.

Just my personal opinion, but I refuse to, and will never under any circumstance, shy away from a subject that holds my interest, because it will require some extra work.

I've gotten to the point in my enjoyment of this hobby that the "challenge" is often the most gratifying and rewarding part of a project.

Nothing is more satisfying to me than to be able (and willing) to go that extra mile if necessary and create something that cannot necessarily be produced right out of the box.

 

 

 

 

Steve

 

 

[bobthehobbyguy]

It boils down to personal preference and choices. Not every builder is concerned with every issue with a kit. I'm sure someone could be happily  building Palmer kits somewhere. Just because you don't want to build a particular kit because of the flaws to see doesn't mean that it's trash.

If you do have issue's with a kit somebody may have come up with an easy fix for the problem.

[Dpate]

54 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

That's where the decisions of the builder come into play.

 

There are a thousand old annual kits that are not exactly up to the standards of today as they were originally created in a "simpler" time, and the molds are often antiquated and ultimately past their prime.

But as there is more often than not only one option for a particular subject, you need to decide early on if it's something that's interesting enough that you'd be willing to put the effort into, or not.

Just my personal opinion, but I refuse to, and will never under any circumstance, shy away from a subject that holds my interest, because it will require some extra work.

I've gotten to the point in my enjoyment of this hobby that the "challenge" is often the most gratifying and rewarding part of a project.

Nothing is more satisfying to me than to be able (and willing) to go that extra mile if necessary and create something that cannot necessarily be produced right out of the box.

 

 

 

 

Steve

 

 

I hear ya. I think next time if it’s a rough kit I’ll give it a swirl. But the current kit 57 Chevy bel air 100 anniversary edition by AMT that I’m dabbling in is fantastic. Even the instructions are the best I’ve seen by AMT. Only issue I found with the kit so far was when test fitting the trunk - it sat little higher than the body so had to sand it down until whole thing was flush. But besides the flash it looks like a newly tooled kit, and the chrome is the best I’ve seen so far from AMT. 

Edited July 25, 2023 by Dpate

[Richard Bartrop]

I think it's safe to say that it's the best 1941 Plymouth kit on the market today.

[thatz4u]

kit bash it with the AMT 41 Ford woody & make a Plymouth woody...

[redscampi]

13 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Just my personal opinion, but I refuse to, and will never under any circumstance, shy away from a subject that holds my interest, because it will require some extra work.

I've gotten to the point in my enjoyment of this hobby that the "challenge" is often the most gratifying and rewarding part of a project.

Nothing is more satisfying to me than to be able (and willing) to go that extra mile if necessary and create something that cannot necessarily be produced right out of the box.

Although my building skills are  a long way off of Steve's, this is where I'm at.  Out of box builds hold no particular interest, and adding or refining details satisfies my creative needs much more. Making something cool out of a fiddly kit is lots of fun, even if it takes me forever. After all, I'm much more mature...(ok, maybe chronologically speaking)...so, shouldn't my builds reflect that?

[OldNYJim]

17 minutes ago, thatz4u said:

kit bash it with the AMT 41 Ford woody & make a Plymouth woody...

"Plywood"

[thatz4u]

Just now, CabDriver said:

"Plywood"

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