Re-released Mach Won Mustang Funny Car

[vamach1]

This kit had me puzzled the more I look at the funny car bodies of that era.  There are plenty of pictures of 69 Mustang funny cars but it seems like not very many 70 ones as there was probably not much incentive to switch to a slightly different body.  Slixx has decals for a Frantic Ford funny car but like the funny cars of the era that had fiberglass bodies that were altered to fit the Logghe chassis.  So to try to build this kit as a funny car seems out of the question without an appropriate body.  I’ll put the kit aside and use the stock body with the Revell Boss 302 chassis and interior to make a factory stock Mach1.  The engraving of the lower panel with the Mach1 lettering is very nice.  There is a pair of Shelby ten spoke deep dish wheels in the kit for the front wheels which in interesting and four chrome inner wheels.  Bottom line is I guess AMT was adapting to the popularity of funny cars in the late 60s and early 70s and figured what kid is going to question why they used a completely stock 70 Mach1 body with a funny car chassis and simply added an aerodynamic front end to make it appear like a funny car of that era.  As others had mentioned it would have been nice to see all of the parts included to build a stock 70 Mach1 but I guess nostalgia won over this time.

[Mark]

Funny car kits with bodies tooled specifically for them were the exception, not the rule, back then.  This was true into the early/mid Seventies.  AMT usually used their stock bodies after they were no longer needed for stock annual kits, while MPC used theirs to wring one more use out of each years' annual body (promo, stock annual kit, funny car kit). 

Jo-Han often made the funny car an alternate version in an annual kit from 1968 through 1970.  For '71 and '72, some kits got two issues: stock/pro stock, and funny car only (using the stock body).

[vamach1]

On 6/15/2024 at 5:43 PM, Mark said:

Funny car kits with bodies tooled specifically for them were the exception, not the rule, back then.  This was true into the early/mid Seventies.  AMT usually used their stock bodies after they were no longer needed for stock annual kits, while MPC used theirs to wring one more use out of each years' annual body (promo, stock annual kit, funny car kit). 

Jo-Han often made the funny car an alternate version in an annual kit from 1968 through 1970.  For '71 and '72, some kits got two issues: stock/pro stock, and funny car only (using the stock body).

The Blue Crescent kit despite the box art top that depicts a Drag racing version it’s too bad that one was not reissued as it would be far easier to build it as a factory stock or Prostock racer from that kit.  The collector prices for that version as pretty high.

[Mr mopar]

On 6/14/2024 at 11:45 AM, vamach1 said:

This kit had me puzzled the more I look at the funny car bodies of that era.  There are plenty of pictures of 69 Mustang funny cars but it seems like not very many 70 ones as there was probably not much incentive to switch to a slightly different body.  Slixx has decals for a Frantic Ford funny car but like the funny cars of the era that had fiberglass bodies that were altered to fit the Logghe chassis.  So to try to build this kit as a funny car seems out of the question without an appropriate body.  I’ll put the kit aside and use the stock body with the Revell Boss 302 chassis and interior to make a factory stock Mach1.  The engraving of the lower panel with the Mach1 lettering is very nice.  There is a pair of Shelby ten spoke deep dish wheels in the kit for the front wheels which in interesting and four chrome inner wheels.  Bottom line is I guess AMT was adapting to the popularity of funny cars in the late 60s and early 70s and figured what kid is going to question why they used a completely stock 70 Mach1 body with a funny car chassis and simply added an aerodynamic front end to make it appear like a funny car of that era.  As others had mentioned it would have been nice to see all of the parts included to build a stock 70 Mach1 but I guess nostalgia won over this time.

To Bad Slixx did not add the grill decal to the sheet !

[Mark]

Not many '70 Mustang funny cars in 1970, as the Maverick was the "new baby" that year.  I'd bet some of the 1969 Mustang bodies were reworked to look like 1970s by those teams that were trying to run the previous year's car again, or those who bought someone else's "last year's" car.  

For '71, a lot of new Mustang bodied cars got built.  A few Pintos, but more Mustangs it seems.

[Can-Con]

19 hours ago, vamach1 said:

The Blue Crescent kit despite the box art top that depicts a Drag racing version it’s too bad that one was not reissued as it would be far easier to build it as a factory stock or Prostock racer from that kit.  The collector prices for that version as pretty high.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a stock '70 based off this body announced within the next year or so. 

[stavanzer]

That makes business sense. The Already have a great stock body. The '70 Mustang is a popular kit, and restoring enough parts to get a stock version, would be a good use of tooling dollars (IMHO).

Once restored, the kit is a sure fire seller, (All Mustangs are) and can released every few years to make back the costs.

[M W Elky]

After a careful cutting job the revell shock towers / engine bay fit the AMT body like a glove. The chassis and interior also fit good as well . It looks like we have a nice kit bash option for a 1970 mustang in 1/25 scale

[Ragtop Man]

MW Elky - need to see more of THAT build, looks really great so far. 

[fairlane1320]

This one has a Revell '68 Mustang CJ chassis and drivetrain. Unfortunately the air cleaner won't fit under the hood. Also, the kit doesn't include a rear valance, so I cobbled one up from the crappy AMT 71 Mach I kit.

[M W Elky]

9 hours ago, Ragtop Man said:

MW Elky - need to see more of THAT build, looks really great so far. 

Go to WIP : DRAG RACING MODELS for more details and updates 

[Ragtop Man]

On 12/30/2024 at 4:50 PM, fairlane1320 said:

This one has a Revell '68 Mustang CJ chassis and drivetrain. Unfortunately the air cleaner won't fit under the hood. Also, the kit doesn't include a rear valance, so I cobbled one up from the crappy AMT 71 Mach I kit.

Well, damn, son! There it is! ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Digging the hell out of that mockup. 

[Ragtop Man]

Just now, Ragtop Man said:

Well, damn, son! There it is! ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Digging the hell out of that mockup. 

Annnnddd the need for a Snickers bar before typing is obvious.  What interior did you use with the Revell CJ Chassis? That is a great move for more detail without driving yourself crazy with fiddly detail. 

[Ragtop Man]

On 6/17/2024 at 9:02 PM, vamach1 said:

The Blue Crescent kit despite the box art top that depicts a Drag racing version it’s too bad that one was not reissued as it would be far easier to build it as a factory stock or Prostock racer from that kit.  The collector prices for that version as pretty high.

The Blue Crescent 'guts' went to the '71 - 73' AMT Mach 1/Road Racer/Street Machine/#31 Tope release; body and some of the chrome insert went to Mach Won.  Roll pans were scissored off the chassis and included with the FC. Glass permanently altered, and no one is sure about where the louvered glass insert went. Pushing the pieces around to re-release Blue Crescent is not out of the question, but down the road a ways given locations of said molds and need to retool certain bits if the interior cannot be located. Definitely a "juice-to-squeeze ratio" question for current money men. FWIW, seeing the mockups here, I'm fine, there are a few of each donor type already in my stacks. 

[Mark C.]

Any rumours floating around out there about when we might see a stock ‘70 Mach 1 kit announced?  I don’t mind doing a kitbash, but a cloned digitally remastered version of the original would be sweet!

[stavanzer]

10 hours ago, Ragtop Man said:

The Blue Crescent 'guts' went to the '71 - 73' AMT Mach 1/Road Racer/Street Machine/#31 Tope release; body and some of the chrome insert went to Mach Won.  Roll pans were scissored off the chassis and included with the FC. Glass permanently altered, and no one is sure about where the louvered glass insert went.

So, the Warren Tope Kit, and the Mach Won together should get me 85% of the way to a stock '70 Mustang?

[CapSat 6]

9 hours ago, stavanzer said:

So, the Warren Tope Kit, and the Mach Won together should get me 85% of the way to a stock '70 Mustang?

You would still need an interior. I was thinking of using a Revell '69-'70 Shelby Mustang for the interior, chassis and powertrain, since those bits are very nice. 

Give it about a year and Round 2 will probably hand you a stock '70 Mach 1 kit...  

[Ragtop Man]

On 1/8/2025 at 11:39 PM, stavanzer said:

So, the Warren Tope Kit, and the Mach Won together should get me 85% of the way to a stock '70 Mustang?

Short answer: Yes. In fact, I can think of a few ways to go - there are a ton of parts in the poorly packaged, but VERY comprehensive 'yellow box' issue.Minilite and Basset wheels, Cragars, a few Stock promo wheels, standard, road race and drag engine options, they just reamed out the gates and let it flow. As you noted, tho, stock interior is MIA, windshield is cut for the blower, and no CJ scoop for the hood. Older iteratations of the MPC kit have a mess of parts, too. The early 80s' "Mach 1" and "Boss 351" issues have a good haul of parts, including a tunnel ram 429 Boss, the big hood scoop (Similar to Ford Drag Team) platform build road race interior with a cage that can be accurized with bits from the MPC Cyclone.  

I doubt you win very many contests, but when we had a lot of fun doing this with our friends, there would be a ton of wild possiblities. I'm leaning to an SCCA sportsman type A/Sedan build with a Boss 429... but I'm a little loopy that way. 

[stavanzer]

1 minute ago, Ragtop Man said:

Short answer: Yes. In fact, I can think of a few ways to go - there are a ton of parts in the poorly packaged, but VERY comprehensive 'yellow box' issue.Minilite and Basset wheels, Cragars, a few Stock promo wheels, standard, road race and drag engine options, they just reamed out the gates and let it flow. As you noted, tho, stock interior is MIA, windshield is cut for the blower, and no CJ scoop for the hood. Older iteratations of the MPC kit have a mess of parts, too. The early 80s' "Mach 1" and "Boss 351" issues have a good haul of parts, including a tunnel ram 429 Boss, the big hood scoop (Similar to Ford Drag Team) platform build road race interior with a cage that can be accurized with bits from the MPC Cyclone.  

I doubt you win very many contests, but when we had a lot of fun doing this with our friends, there would be a ton of wild possiblities. I'm leaning to an SCCA sportsman type A/Sedan build with a Boss 429... but I'm a little loopy that way. 

I have the Yellow Box kit. I may get the Mach Won, to do just such a bash. Thanks, Bob!

[M W Elky]

9 hours ago, Ragtop Man said:

Short answer: Yes. In fact, I can think of a few ways to go - there are a ton of parts in the poorly packaged, but VERY comprehensive 'yellow box' issue.Minilite and Basset wheels, Cragars, a few Stock promo wheels, standard, road race and drag engine options, they just reamed out the gates and let it flow. As you noted, tho, stock interior is MIA, windshield is cut for the blower, and no CJ scoop for the hood. Older iteratations of the MPC kit have a mess of parts, too. The early 80s' "Mach 1" and "Boss 351" issues have a good haul of parts, including a tunnel ram 429 Boss, the big hood scoop (Similar to Ford Drag Team) platform build road race interior with a cage that can be accurized with bits from the MPC Cyclone.  

I doubt you win very many contests, but when we had a lot of fun doing this with our friends, there would be a ton of wild possiblities. I'm leaning to an SCCA sportsman type A/Sedan build with a Boss 429... but I'm a little loopy that way. 

I mocked up the interior and chassis plate of the yellow box 71 kit with the Mach one body . It can definitely be made to work. I wanted a little more accuracy so I ended up using the revell 69 boss 302 for a donor. I’m going to say the yellow 71 is worth getting at hobby lobby’s 40% off sale week just for the parts hoard alone 

[Ragtop Man]

12 hours ago, M W Elky said:

I mocked up the interior and chassis plate of the yellow box 71 kit with the Mach one body . It can definitely be made to work. I wanted a little more accuracy so I ended up using the revell 69 boss 302 for a donor. I’m going to say the yellow 71 is worth getting at hobby lobby’s 40% off sale week just for the parts hoard alone 

Get some resin Daisy Mags and you have the Ford Drag Team car right there. Agree on the parts hoard, more than enough content to drive an attention deficit modeler straight bonkers. Ditto for the the 90's 'yellow box' issue, too. FWIW, the HL kit shown here is a great donor for the AMT '66 FB, too. Chassis has separate exhaust and driveline, the MPC SBF is still one of the better efforts in scale, although about a squillion years old. 

[M W Elky]

40 minutes ago, Ragtop Man said:

Get some resin Daisy Mags and you have the Ford Drag Team car right there. Agree on the parts hoard, more than enough content to drive an attention deficit modeler straight bonkers. Ditto for the the 90's 'yellow box' issue, too. FWIW, the HL kit shown here is a great donor for the AMT '66 FB, too. Chassis has separate exhaust and driveline, the MPC SBF is still one of the better efforts in scale, although about a squillion years old. 

Yup I have a hoard of daisy mags from the AMT 63 impala

[Ragtop Man]

This was the "yellow box" Mustang I was referring to - the AMT version. A case of classic disinformation, this was not the kit in the box, as far as I recall, think it was a build of the MPC '73. 

The chassis in this kit - and the Tope Mustang, '71-3 annual, Street Machine/Road Racer etc - with the rather broad front wheelwell aprons was originally the '70 Blue Crescent. The chassis, engine, driveline and underhood are identical. 

IMO, this is only really worth chasing if you are a stickler for the very original kit, or, if you have a few of these stockpiled from the day. The recent posts here using the Revell '68 FB and the '69 Boss appear far superior in detail. Maybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee we will see the interior in resin, maybe not.  I hope we do, it would simplify the proceedings greatly!

[vamach1]

10 hours ago, Ragtop Man said:

This was the "yellow box" Mustang I was referring to - the AMT version. A case of classic disinformation, this was not the kit in the box, as far as I recall, think it was a build of the MPC '73. 

The chassis in this kit - and the Tope Mustang, '71-3 annual, Street Machine/Road Racer etc - with the rather broad front wheelwell aprons was originally the '70 Blue Crescent. The chassis, engine, driveline and underhood are identical. 

IMO, this is only really worth chasing if you are a stickler for the very original kit, or, if you have a few of these stockpiled from the day. The recent posts here using the Revell '68 FB and the '69 Boss appear far superior in detail. Maybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee we will see the interior in resin, maybe not.  I hope we do, it would simplify the proceedings greatly!

I did not realize the older MPC 73 Mustangs have the Blue Cresent 70 Mustang parts.  I’ll have to try out those parts with the Mach Won rerelease as I’d like to make a stock 1/25 1970 Mach1.