Pocher Rolls Royce Phantom 2 restoration

[François]

Hello everyone,

For those of you that follow my Bentley Blower build, you know that, althought not yet finished,  I'm a lot closer to the end that I was whrn I started about one year ago. That's why I'm starting the ground work for my next project,  a full restoration of an already built Pocher rolls royce phantom ii.  I recently found this car at my local hobby shop. I don't know who built it or when, all I know is that it's in a very bad state. 

So here's what I would like to do with it.

1- complet dismantle and cleaning of every usable parts

2- 3d model and print (or scratch build) any part destroyed during dismantling.  I'm expecting there will be many

3- 3d model and print any parts that do not look like the real ones

4- like many of you know,  Pocher cars have working engine pistons and crank which is a steep in the right direction.  I'd like to go further by incorporating a small gearmotor to electricaly drive the motor. I'd would also like to drive the rear wheel also. Another aspect of the engine that in lacking is the valve train.  Althougt nicely detailed,  it is static. I would like to have a working valve train driven from the engine. In order to properly do this, I need to find some pictures,  drawings,  exploded views... of the 7.7 liter straight 6 engine that was in the car. If anyone has this kind of info, please let me know.

5- a full interior up date

6- wiring for head lights,  brake lights,  flashers

7- maybe a redesign of the bodywork to give it a slightly different look

8- transform it into a full rag top version 

Here are a few pictures of the car as found.

More to come later this year. 

[Moparman18064]

Definitely watching, I have to start on my Pocher Alfa Romeo Spyder sometime in near future.

[NOBLNG]

Well that thing sure got lucky finding you François.?

[Deathgoblin]

I'm watching this one!  I hope you can salvage her. 

[Bugatti Fan]

I think this will be much more than just a salvage job in the hands of Francois.

Will be following this one as I have a partial Pocher Rolls kit that was given to me years ago. No bodywork. Just chassis, engine, wheels, radiator etc. So wondering what to do with it. Possibly a wooden boat tailed car could look nice, so a semi scratch build project.

John Haddock's website JDH Models has a lot of detail info for builders of this kit, and there is a co.lang named Scale Motorcars who specialise in replacement and improvement parts for both old Rivarossi Pochers and the newer Hornby ones.

Edited April 6, 2024 by Bugatti Fan

[François]

Hello all, I just wanted to do a little update on this futur project.  I've been scratching my head as to what direction this restoration should take. Partiel or full resto? Moderate or extreme add ons? Keep the rolls stock or venture in some modifications ? Well, I think I found what I would like to do. You see, I'm a big fan of Marvel films.  And this summer,  I decided to watch them all while I do my rowing every morning (less boring that way). The first one (when taken cronologicaly) is Captain America. And that's when my idea came.  I'll try to transform the Rolls into Red Skull's Hydra coupe.  Witch is this.

You have to admit there is a certain resemblance (with a lot of imagination)

It would requier massive modifications,  at 1/8 scale, the Hydra car would be over 3 feet long and 1 foot wide. Not sure if I would bring it to that size but I would certainly go the 6 wheel route with the extra long hood and super cool rear end. This car being nothing more than a movie prop, I feel I  could do just about whatever I want without offending too many people. 

More to come...

[Bugatti Fan]

My goodness!   I would have thought that a straight restoration of the Rolls with all your usual upgrades would be work enough !

You certainly set yourself some challenges. Not sure if there will be anything you will be using from that old Rolls kit going by the new project from the Marvel series you are proposing.   You might end up completely scratch building the Marvel car and still have the Rolls to restore!

The Marvel films are really good escapism, and quite humerous in places too. I have enjoyed watching quite a number of them so far.

Edited June 17, 2024 by Bugatti Fan

[François]

Bugatti fan,  you're probably right about scratch building most of it. I might be able to use the wheel hubs, brake linkage,  steering mecanism, the frame that would need to be stretched,  motor ( which I would need to transform into a V12, reprint the block and 1 new head). The motor should actually be a V16, I'll see when and if I get there. It would certainly be a massive build, both literally and figuratively.

[Pierre Rivard]

Might as well build the Hydra Coupe from scratch with your design and 3D printing skills. Would be a shame to waste the beautiful Rolls Royce on that if only 10% of it can be reused...

[Big John]

Love the concept!  You could even upscale the blower from the Bentley. Will watch with great anticipation.

[dino246gt]

I've got a couple of barn find built ups that I've had for 40 years!

Always wanted to do something crazy with them, so..........

I'LL BE WATCHING THIS BUILD!!

Cheers, have fun and keep posting.