Can you identify this car ?

[Kah puts]

I was surfing the Old car advertising site and found this 1964 Pontiac Tempest ad, in the shot of the car in traffic with the woman with her head leaning out the window there’s a car behind the Tempest that I can’t identify, it’s not a TBird, I also thought it might be a Cadillac concept car but none that I could find, it could be something foreign, I’m scratching my head…?

[pack rat]

Looks like a re-touched photo of a '57 Bird. 

[Little Timmy]

I think it's a 58 Buick.

Not quite sure tho...

EDIT: nope, I'm way off.

 

 

Edited April 26, 2024 by Little Timmy

[Kah puts]

Maybe the retouched TBird, though the turn signal lights are in the lower bumper on a 57? The windshield frame doesn’t Mach to my eye either. I’m hoping we figure this out it’s keeping me up at night ?

[GRiN]

Maybe a '57 Fairlane with a wiper blade in use because of the rain?

[Ace-Garageguy]

I'm thinking retouched '57 T-Bird too.

The baby Birds were so iconic, so easily recognized, a GM ad agency art director wouldn't want one to be visible.

The area around the headlight is muddy, and could have been reworked into a squared-off shape instead of the Bird's round headlight surround / fender extension. Likewise the area on the bumper under the headlight is muddy, as if the parking light was retouched out.

The general proportions and detail proportions are right for a baby Bird, as you can see by comparing with the photo below...things like overall height, height of the fender over the wheel arch, height of the headlight above the bumper, etc. The windshield looks exactly like baby Bird, and it looks to me like you can just make out the chrome gills that live behind the wheel opening on the fender too, and the beginning of the tailfin on the door, with the chrome handle in it.

The wiper arm is sticking up from the right place for a baby Bird too.

The process would involve airbrushing a sharp positive print, then photographing that to produce an internegative that the color separation / printing plates would be made from.

Anyway, that's my story, and I'm sticking with it...fer now.

                 

 

Edited April 27, 2024 by Ace-Garageguy

[john sharisky]

GM is no stranger to some photo re-touching:

 

[Russell C]

I'm voting for the retouched '57 T-bird guesses, where GM did something funny to the windshield by adding a vertical bar to it, and maybe plunked in a '57 Chevy headlight bezel shape. The tell-tale for the T-bird might be right where its front bumper is beginning to be hidden.

[sfhess]

What you can see of the wheel cover looks a little T-bird-ish.

[Ace-Garageguy]

50 minutes ago, Russell C said:

I'm voting for the retouched '57 T-bird guesses, where GM did something funny to the windshield by adding a vertical bar to it...

That's the wiper sticking up, and it comes from the correct place on the cowl for a '57 Bird...

...and looking at your green reference shot, I'm 100% convinced it's a retouched '57 T-Bird, no doubt about it.

Edited April 27, 2024 by Ace-Garageguy

[Jon Haigwood]

My first thought was 50's Hudson but the except for the headlight eyebrow and the square mirror. The  Baby Bird would also have a round mirror. No sure what year they started with the square  outside mirrors. 

[Kah puts]

Yah I’m thinking the retouched TBird’s got the best shot, and I kind of like the 57 Cadillac look of the headlight treatment, it would be hard to do in scale unless you want to butcher up a resin 57 ??

[rattle can man]

perhaps a Packard Hawk?

[rattle can man]

like this. perhaps not a 60, but they were built for several years after the Studebaker merger.

[Ace-Garageguy]

5 hours ago, rattle can man said:

perhaps a Packard Hawk?

The Packard Hawk looks as much like the car in the photo as this  

looks like this...  

[peteski]

While the headlight pods are vaguely similar, the bumper and grille are totally different.

Edited June 14, 2024 by peteski

[stitchdup]

could it be an older custom? what can be seen looks familiar to me from ccc or rik hovings fotki

[KWT]

Looks like a mix between a thunderbird and a saratoga...