Why you cannot trust Scalemates. Crowd Sourced is only as smart as the Dumbest guy in the crowd.

[stavanzer]

Look at this page for My Mother The Car....

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/amt-904-150-my-mother-car--1153055/timeline

This is why Scalemates is so rotten sometimes.

[Ace-Garageguy]

"Crowd-sourced is only as smart as the dumbest guy in the crowd."

Too bad more folks don't realize that.

Googli's AI hasn't figured it out yet either.

EDIT: For those who missed it, shortly (within minutes) after I posted jokingly on another thread that "budge is an adult budget", Googli's AI picked it up and repeated it.

Edited March 3 by Ace-Garageguy

[LDO]

 

[stavanzer]

"A Myth is a Lady Moth"

[Rob Hall]

Looks like a software glitch more than anything else..I don't see any lines connecting the MMTC kit to anything else.  Before my time, but I believe that kit was the AMT '27 Model T w/ some extra parts? 

[Bainford]

My old shop teacher once told me, "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see." In the modern age, I believe this advice can be abbreviated to, "Don't believe anything." 

[stavanzer]

  On 3/3/2025 at 3:14 PM, Rob Hall said:

 Before my time, but I believe that kit was the AMT '27 Model T w/ some extra parts? 

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Nope, not Software. Just Fools.

You are correct about the origins of the MMtC kit.

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/show-rods/amt-xr-6-27-t--ford/

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/tv--movie/amt-my-mother-the-car/

The MMtC added a Set of 3 new Hood Parts, a Radiator, and spacer to mount it on, a Radio, an a 5 piece Gas Tank and Base, and a Trunk. Not much else is changed.

Close examination of the instructions shows most of the kit is a straight carry over.

[rattle can man]

UMMM okay. There is no line connecting the kit to the other show cars.I have a '27 Police car and an MMTC kit I have never compared them, but am now curious.

[Mark]

The '27 touring from the double kit is definitely the basis of MMTC.  Besides the aforementioned parts, the rear window area of the raised top was changed (with a new part, I believe). 

The earlier XR-6 double kit went over like passing gas in church (the linoleum gray box art didn't help) so the TV car served as a means of salvaging something out of the double kit. 

The T touring was then revised further for post-MMTC reissues.  The Chevrolet Brothers (Frontenac) engine goodies were restored from the double kit, along with the slotted rear wheels.  The custom rear window top piece was probably the only part from MMTC that was retained.  The other optional parts were (then) newly tooled.

[stavanzer]

And Speaking of MMtC, here is a video that will explain pretty much everything about the show, so you never need to watch it, LOL.

Bunch of really nifty Old Cars in here, including pics of the 1928 Porter as it was seen before it was restored in the show. The Unrestored version might make a really neat weathered build.

 

[Aaronw]

  On 3/3/2025 at 3:39 AM, stavanzer said:

Look at this page for My Mother The Car....

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/amt-904-150-my-mother-car--1153055/timeline

This is why Scalemates is so rotten sometimes.

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Something about babies and bathwater.

 

Most wikis have an editing process where other contributors can correct errors. It isn't hard. 

Not sure the process at Scalemates as model kit history is not something I can claim expertise in I simply use it as a resource. I have contributed to other wikis that are more in my areas of knowledge, mainly firefighting, and fire apparatus.

 

Errors occur even in the best run organizations.

 

 

The whole point of wikis is collecting information that no commercial entity will bother with. They rely on people being willing to take the time to share their knowledge. Sometimes the information people pass on is incorrect.

I wouldn't understand that. I've only been wrong once, but it turns out I was wrong about being wrong so... 🤪

 

 

If people hoard all of their knowledge then it dies with them. Wikis are a good way to help ensure knowledge remains available. 

[Bugatti Fan]

Easy to criticise Scalemates. But if it relies on voluntary contributions for information about timelines of when kits were issued, in many cases from way back when, then discrepancies will occur.

Criticism is easy.  Contribution takes a bit more effort.

To put this into perspective, at least someone has taken the time and effort to create the Scalemates database. It's not always correct, granted. But I would prefer it to be there to refer to regardless of some of its shortcomings than not to have it at all. Those folk who contribute do so to help others with the best will in the world. If they happen to get it wrong (to err is human by the way) and get regarded as dumb is a bit disingenuous.

It would be a pity it folks hesitate to contribute anything out of fear of being considered dumb !

Edited March 7 by Bugatti Fan

[Force]

A website isn't better that what's put into it, if the information is wrong you get wrong answers.
Many timelines on Scalemates has lots to be desired as many are wrong and kits "related" to one another, with that I mean based on the same tooling, aren't on there correctly.
I have noticed this in many occations and it makes searches harder, and if the information is wrong it's wrong.
Try to do a search on the "modern era" Monogram and Revell Funny Car kits wich first came in the mid 80's, all of them should be on the same timeline as they are based on the same basic tooling but with different bodys, on Scalemates the kits are grouped on a timeline after what body they have and not in the same timeline wich in my opinion they should be as it's mostly the body and related parts that's different, the engine and chassis are basically the same with a few updates.
I also noticed on the Revell Germany Kenworth W900 full detail kits wich were on different timelines because a misspint on the boxes but they should be on the same one, some kits are labeled as 1:24th scale and some are labeled 1:25th scale...all of them are 1:25th scale regardless of what the box says and they are even slightly underscaled in some places, to be honest, they are in fact based on the 1:16 Monogram Kenworth W900 kit as they are downscaled from that one, I belive this is changed now after I pointed it out.
But...in many cases it's good information on Scalemates, not reliable all the time but it's mostly right, so it could use some improvements.