Welp I gotta say goodbye to my Crown Vic😥

[NYLIBUD]

I got slammed by a UPS truck.🫣It was a great car.2009 Crown Vic,police interceptor .😱Totaled total. Nooooo!!!!!.There goes my insurance.

[meechum68]

Oh man that sucks so bad

I would get it back to yank the drive line from engine to rear end. And it looks like that driver side wheel lived. 

I hate seeing that. 

[sfhess]

if you were, as you say, "slammed by a UPS truck", and you are not at fault, your insurance had better not go up.

Edited October 7 by sfhess

[The Junkman]

For all the front end damage, the cabin stayed remarkably intact and undamaged.  It did its job.  I'll bet you were sore in a few places afterwards but given the alternative outcome....

Steve (a driver of a remarkably large number of Crown Vics-for business purposes that is.)

[iamsuperdan]

12 hours ago, sfhess said:

if you were, as you say, "slammed by a UPS truck", and you are not at fault, your insurance had better not go up.

Unfortunately, that's not how it works. Even if UPS' insurance company covers replacement cost on the Crown Vic, Ron now has an accident on his record. 

So although his insurance company may not have to pay anything for the accident, his rates will undoubtedly rise because of this.

 

Is the frame toast? Most insurance write offs can offer a "keep it" option, where you get to keep the vehicle, you get paid less than replacement cost, and the vehicle now has a salvage title on it.

Many years ago, I had a VW Passat that I spent a lot of time and effort on. It was written off in a hailstorm. Insurance gave me the option of $4500, and the car goes away, or I get $3000 and keep the car, albeit with a salvage record. Mechanically, it was perfect, interior was perfect. I knew I couldn't replace the car for $4500, so I kept the car and used the $3k to repair the body. The cool part was that they never added a salvage record to the VIN. As far as any searches were concerned, the car was never damaged or written off.

 

Anyway, if given the option, would keeping the car and repairing the front end be an option? 

[Ace-Garageguy]

'T'were me, I'd buy the salvage from the insurance company if that's an option where you are. It is where I am, and I've saved several "economic totals" that were excellent mechanically, and either brought them back, or swapped the guts into straight shells.

Far as fixing that one goes, I don't know many shops that are competent to do that car right (WE are), but I've seen so much structural buggery that was "just repaired"...well, I wouldn't want it, period...unless you know a shop that has a reputation for doing heavy hits absolutely correctly. There aren't many out there.

[NYLIBUD]

Thanks for all the advice guys.No I got a nice payout from Nationwide.And the car is a complete wreck.I’ll just get another one.I have a couple of other cars ,so that’s positive.But this was a good car.Its gone.🫣Hit a @&%#?UPS truck.oh heaven's to Betsy!?Sorry who do we s that h as open too,big square brown truck,😖

Edited Sunday at 10:27 PM by NYLIBUD

[DJMar]

Bummer about the Vic, but glad you walked away from that.

[mcs1056]

Can't even use that front end for an F100.

[johnyrotten]

Looking at the damage, I wouldn't be surprised to see damage on the engine and transmission,as far as broken mounting bosses for accessories and engine mounts. It's a shame too, those are great, cool cars. 

[Brutalform]

10 hours ago, iamsuperdan said:

Unfortunately, that's not how it works. Even if UPS' insurance company covers replacement cost on the Crown Vic, Ron now has an accident on his record. 

So although his insurance company may not have to pay anything for the accident, his rates will undoubtedly rise because of this.

 

 

 

This all depends on the state you live in. Here in Pa, your rates will not go up due to a non fault accident. 

[Brutalform]

Sorry to learn of your loss, Ron. Glad you weren’t injured. 

[bobss396]

My stepmother wadded up a similar Mercury around 2009. That was more across the front, even the dash was pushed back.

[NYLIBUD]

Half the engine and tranny we’re 10 feet down the road.Im so PISSSSSSDED OFF.It was a great car.

[1972coronet]

7 hours ago, NYLIBUD said:

Half the engine and tranny we’re 10 feet down the road.Im so PISSSSSSDED OFF.It was a great car.

Firstly, I'm glad that you're okay physically. 

Too bad that you couldn't part it out - lots of CVPI-only equipment on those ( Certified Calibration speedometer ; dash trim where the centre trunk-release button is ; driver-side door panel... just to name a couple ). 

Heck, I'd buy the Lighting Control Module from you ! The one in my '04 has a bad relay - rebuilt ones are $300 my cost. 

[sfhess]

On 10/7/2025 at 7:44 AM, iamsuperdan said:

Unfortunately, that's not how it works. Even if UPS' insurance company covers replacement cost on the Crown Vic, Ron now has an accident on his record. 

So although his insurance company may not have to pay anything for the accident, his rates will undoubtedly rise because of this.

 

Is the frame toast? Most insurance write offs can offer a "keep it" option, where you get to keep the vehicle, you get paid less than replacement cost, and the vehicle now has a salvage title on it.

Many years ago, I had a VW Passat that I spent a lot of time and effort on. It was written off in a hailstorm. Insurance gave me the option of $4500, and the car goes away, or I get $3000 and keep the car, albeit with a salvage record. Mechanically, it was perfect, interior was perfect. I knew I couldn't replace the car for $4500, so I kept the car and used the $3k to repair the body. The cool part was that they never added a salvage record to the VIN. As far as any searches were concerned, the car was never damaged or written off.

 

Anyway, if given the option, would keeping the car and repairing the front end be an option? 

I was rear ended a few years ago.   The driver who caused the crash was not insured.  My uninsured motorist coverage, along with the UMPD deductible waiver, paid for repair of the damage and a rental car. There was no "accident" (crash) on my record and no increase in my premium.  The key words are "at fault".  If an insurance company raises you rates for a not-at-fault crash, it's time to find another insurance company

Edited October 9 by sfhess

[bobss396]

Where on Commack Road was this? 

[webestang]

What a bummer. Seems you are OK and that is a great relief. Such a sweet Vic. I myself had to sell my 96 Vic due to so many electrical problems. Would love to have another but they are getting very scarce here in St. Lou. 

[ranma]

On 10/8/2025 at 1:37 PM, NYLIBUD said:

.It was a great car

Hey Ron, There is a 2009 Crown Vic ex Police that looks simular to yours on Craiglist in Mentor Ohio (near Cleveland. Has 98,000 miles asking price of $3,900.. Photo from the two day old listing..

Edited Thursday at 10:03 PM by ranma

[TransAmMike]

Geez Ron, that reallllllly sucks!!

[NYLIBUD]

On 10/6/2025 at 9:46 PM, meechum68 said:

Oh man that sucks so bad

I would get it back to yank the drive line from engine to rear end. And it looks like that driver side wheel lived. 

I hate seeing that. 

Yup,thanks,it really sucks.I may try to find another.Just a great car.And the UPS truck just had a dent.SOB😓I mean anything can be repaired,but I think in this case,she’s a goner.I did get a nice check from Nationwide(the UPS’s-ins co.).So will see,like I said,maybe I’ll pick up another one.They just look so sinister in black.And I don’t care what anyone says,they are fast,great handling cars, so if I do pick up another one,its gotta be black.Theres still tons of good parts,no doubt,but I don’t have the time to start parting it out,and besides it’s already at the scrap yard,with two other cars stacked on top of it…Waaaaa.😖😭Ah but seriously,it’s just a car,and it ain’t the first one I’ve totaled.🙄Whatever,but again,thanks for all the well wishes and advice.Oh and Allstate SUCKS,like I said,tons of red tape to deal with..Im dropping them,before they drop me.Including my Jeep Cherokee and Landrover.Thanks guys.🤕I’ll start searching Craigslist.lol

 

13 hours ago, bobss396 said:

Where on Commack Road was this? 

 

13 hours ago, bobss396 said:

Where on Commack Road was this? 

Across from the Shell,and Chick Felli(spelling?)just north of the LIE.I was going to turn left on Imperial way to go to a friends house,and BAAAAMMM…Oh and most of the cops at the scene were total dicks.🤮🥴I had to get a bunch of stuff out of the car,but they kept pushing me back,especially one ugly fat slob bitch of a cop.🚨😤Ah life goes on.

[The Junkman]

Part of my extensive experience with Crown Vics, I periodically had to investigate collisions involving UPS trucks.  It always seemed amusing that when a tow truck was called for their trucks, the tow truck contract mandated that the UPS logos be covered by duct tape or some such when "on the hook".  Like no one would notice this massive brown brick-shaped vehicle and not know exactly who owned it?

Edited Friday at 01:58 PM by The Junkman

[bobss396]

A friend of mine used to live off Imperial Way. I know the exact location. You'll find another car soon I hope.

[NYLIBUD]

2 hours ago, bobss396 said:

A friend of mine used to live off Imperial Way. I know the exact location. You'll find another car soon I hope.

Yea my buddy lives around the block from Imperial Way.I forget the name of his street.Although I know it’s a dead end.And thanks,I’ll get something soon,or use the money to fix up my Cherokee..After all,the UPS ins company already paid me a settlement.I took it,only problem,is now I cannot sue UPS.Not that I was going too.Some are saying it was my fault,because I started to make the left onto Imperial.Whatever.🫤I’m pretty sure I’ve met you at some show.Do you go to the LINADS church show,Flowerfield,Bald Hill,West Islip.I think you told me what you drive,but I forgot.

Thanks dude.

[bobss396]

20 hours ago, NYLIBUD said:

Yea my buddy lives around the block from Imperial Way.I forget the name of his street.Although I know it’s a dead end.And thanks,I’ll get something soon,or use the money to fix up my Cherokee..After all,the UPS ins company already paid me a settlement.I took it,only problem,is now I cannot sue UPS.Not that I was going too.Some are saying it was my fault,because I started to make the left onto Imperial.Whatever.🫤I’m pretty sure I’ve met you at some show.Do you go to the LINADS church show,Flowerfield,Bald Hill,West Islip.I think you told me what you drive,but I forgot.

Thanks dude.

I haven't been to the LINADS on Tuesday in a while. I was at Bob's a couple Saturdays ago. I been driving the '66 Belair a lot.

Planning on going to LINADS on Tuesday if it doesn't rain. They only have a couple of weeks left.