Donny Posted Monday at 10:38 PM Posted Monday at 10:38 PM (edited) For those that haven't seen it, here's the link. Sorry can't post it, system doesn't like a .txt extension But if you can find it, definitely worth the read for us revheads. oil change takes 27 hours, yep 27 bloody hours! 16 drain plugs, and some body panels need to be removed, special tools only Bugatti have, and wait for it US $25000, I think that includes oil though 🙄😄 Don PS printed in the Daily Mail Edited Monday at 10:40 PM by Donny
Xingu Posted Monday at 10:46 PM Posted Monday at 10:46 PM Yeah, it's expensive to own a hyper car. My old boss has his Mclaren towed from MD to PA and back for a $10k oil change and thinks nothing of it. 2
Donny Posted yesterday at 12:32 AM Author Posted yesterday at 12:32 AM 1 hour ago, Xingu said: Yeah, it's expensive to own a hyper car. My old boss has his Mclaren towed from MD to PA and back for a $10k oil change and thinks nothing of it. Yeah, nice to have that sort of money. Whilst we are chatting, why can't I post a file with a .txt file extension? Don
JollySipper Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM There's not very many super/hyper cars that I would wish to own..... I would be more happy with a little RX7 or something along those lines! I do remember falling in love with the Diablo when it was introduced around 1990. Porsche 959s are cool too........... 1
Volzfan59 Posted yesterday at 01:41 AM Posted yesterday at 01:41 AM Well, as long as it includes the oil. 1 1
89AKurt Posted yesterday at 05:12 AM Posted yesterday at 05:12 AM Set of tires is something like $35,000, and don't last long when doing record runs. I just saw the one-off Aston Martin DBS (correct me if wrong, their first V8) water cut glass, 4 pieces was $40,000! Keeping up with the Jones' with insane money, meh. 🫥 3
Donny Posted yesterday at 06:54 AM Author Posted yesterday at 06:54 AM Yep, and different tyres for summer and winter, Bugatti ask for the old ones to be returned. You don't get any favors here.
Ace-Garageguy Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago I don't get it. Why? I can see aspiring to own something like a GT40 or a Porsche 917 or a Ferrari GTO or a McLaren M6, even a Bugatti type 35...but the late-model hyper cars that really aren't about performance anymore but only screaming LOOKIT MEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! leave me cold. Maybe it's sour grapes on my part...? Nah. I don't have a problem with people who have money to burn. I just don't understand the need to burn it. 2
Xingu Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 17 hours ago, Donny said: Yeah, nice to have that sort of money. Whilst we are chatting, why can't I post a file with a .txt file extension? Don .txt is not supported by the software. There are 3 or 4 file types that are supported and are listed when you create your post. 1
Matt Bacon Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago I think the Veyron is in a league of its own. Personally, I think, if anyone was saying “LOOKIT ME” it was Ferdinand Piech. A lot of the modern hypercars are design statements for rich kids in the Gulf states, Knightsbridge, Gangnam and Shenzhen. But the Veyron is actually an engineer’s car, simply the ultimate expression of what every discipline that goes into a four-wheeled internal combustion engine powered vehicle is. It’s literally a “Masterpiece” for VW. It’s a Teutonic McLaren F1. That’s why Mate Rimac is making a 16 cylinder petrol successor in the Tourbillon. They are meant to be the last word. Some people, for sure, will buy them as trophies; some will buy them as investments, but the POINT of them is the engineering, executed without compromise (or realism, Piech’s critics said). I saw one in London a few years ago. They’re not very big or dramatic in the flesh… think an Audi TT that’s spent a lot of time at the gym. Certainly very restrained compared to a gold-wrapped Aventador or a McLaren Senna. Yes, an oil change or a set of boots are expensive. Two things: first, they ARE investments, anyone who bought one is making plenty every year, and a “full service history” is a pretty key part of it; secondly, and more importantly, even if you never do, you have to be able to plug in your special key, put your foot down and drive it to 267 mph, where the tire tread is pulling the sidewalls apart at 400g. Not everyone is Andy Wallace, but for pride and public liability reasons, VW Group needs to assume they might be… best, M. 1
stitchdup Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Matt Bacon said: I think the Veyron is in a league of its own. Personally, I think, if anyone was saying “LOOKIT ME” it was Ferdinand Piech. A lot of the modern hypercars are design statements for rich kids in the Gulf states, Knightsbridge, Gangnam and Shenzhen. But the Veyron is actually an engineer’s car, simply the ultimate expression of what every discipline that goes into a four-wheeled internal combustion engine powered vehicle is. It’s literally a “Masterpiece” for VW. It’s a Teutonic McLaren F1. That’s why Mate Rimac is making a 16 cylinder petrol successor in the Tourbillon. They are meant to be the last word. Some people, for sure, will buy them as trophies; some will buy them as investments, but the POINT of them is the engineering, executed without compromise (or realism, Piech’s critics said). I saw one in London a few years ago. They’re not very big or dramatic in the flesh… think an Audi TT that’s spent a lot of time at the gym. Certainly very restrained compared to a gold-wrapped Aventador or a McLaren Senna. Yes, an oil change or a set of boots are expensive. Two things: first, they ARE investments, anyone who bought one is making plenty every year, and a “full service history” is a pretty key part of it; secondly, and more importantly, even if you never do, you have to be able to plug in your special key, put your foot down and drive it to 267 mph, where the tire tread is pulling the sidewalls apart at 400g. Not everyone is Andy Wallace, but for pride and public liability reasons, VW Group needs to assume they might be… best, M. rimac now own bugatti in a strange vw merger. I believe its something like rimac own 51% of bugatti but vw own 49% of rimac. They did the same with the porsche audi merger a few years back which led to the porsche suvs since they are just vw tuaregs and tiguans under the skin (and so is the lamborghini suv chassis) 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Well fellas, y'all can keep 'em. I think they're ugly, too. But I'll gladly let a Singer 911 nest in my garage. 1
Donny Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Well fellas, y'all can keep 'em. I think they're ugly, too. But I'll gladly let a Singer 911 nest in my garage. Have to agree Bill, they are IMO not an attractive looking car. We have a Ford Kuga that does the job for us. Exotic cars, I'll stick to models. Don
Ace-Garageguy Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Matt Bacon said: ...But the Veyron is actually an engineer’s car, simply the ultimate expression of what every discipline that goes into a four-wheeled internal combustion engine powered vehicle is... I disagree. No engineer worth his salt builds a car that needs a $20,000 oil change. It's cost-no-object silliness. The "ultimate expression etc. etc." is to me a prototype for LeMans, or an F1 car, or something running 400+ mph at Bonneville...not a jumped up weenie ride that has no real practical use whatsoever and costs the moon and stars to maintain. You may as well have an F104 and not even a private pilot's license. And I wouldn't buy one if I had both Bezos' and Musk's money combined. Edited 10 hours ago by Ace-Garageguy punctiliousness 1
Donny Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago I'm with Bill. Except for a few multi multi billionaires who can afford this poorly designed beast, (I don't think it's pretty), - who cares. When I read the article, one word came to mind, but I can't repeat it here. Involves a bull. There are so few people in the world that can afford this vehicle, I don't see the point in wasting time and money on something that only impresses the few. Design and manufacturer something less ostentatious and save the millions of starving in the world. I just see it as a trophy for Bugatti and their designers - WOW look what we can do! Just the way I see it. Don
iamsuperdan Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago The nice thing about a Porsche 911 is that one can do most of the regular maintenance themselves. On the older ones anyway. I know that a 911 up until at least 2004 is easy enough to do your own oil changes on. At basically the same cost as on any other car. Just grab about 9L of 0W40 synthetic, and a filter for $10, and you're good to go. Air filters are normal too. Brakes can get interesting, but even those aren't crazy expensive. Practical supercars. 3
Russell C Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 5 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said: ... I'll gladly let a Singer 911 nest in my garage. Ditto. Anybody have something a bit north of $2 mill I can borrow next Wednesday? https://bringatrailer.com/listing/porsche-singer-dls/ 1
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