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I hope they aren't counting on me purchasing the Camaro abomination. Had a '69 Camero for 19 years in Hugger Orange. Now that's a Camero.  

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16 minutes ago, espo said:

I hope they aren't counting on me purchasing the Camaro abomination. Had a '69 Camaro for 19 years in Hugger Orange. Now that's a Camaro.  

Yup...best year IMHO, and every bit as good looking now as it was then...

1969 Camaro SS350 Hugger Orange Muscle Car

EDIT: I had a pace-car clone for a short time, and the only thing I didn't like about it was the automatic gearbox...and the big sign on the side.

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1 hour ago, NYLIBUD said:

God there really are some ugly cars on the road.They all look the same.🤮😖

They ARE the same: same features, same colors, same size (within their class). The difference is how much you pay for the name on the badge...

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7 hours ago, NYLIBUD said:

What the hell drugs are the guys in Detroit on?

Maybe none. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe some of those young, hip engineers and designers in the sixties and seventies stepped outside for a smoke break and passed around a doobie or two, then, swimming in inspiration, went back inside and built us some cool cars. Though, one day one of them dropped a hit of acid and we ended up with the Pacer.

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6 hours ago, Big Messer said:

... difference is how much you pay for the name on the badge...

That's actually the sorta solution to "this cannot be a Camaro" problem. Forbid the placement of those letters / logo on it and replace with any others that wouldn't raise an eyebrow anymore these days - Kia / Lexus / Plymouth / Nissan / Lincoln / VW / Daewoo .......

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20 minutes ago, Russell C said:

That's actually the sorta solution to "this cannot be a Camaro" problem. Forbid the placement of those letters / logo on it and replace with any others that wouldn't raise an eyebrow anymore these days - Kia / Lexus / Plymouth / Nissan / Lincoln / VW / Daewoo .......

Lada anyone? Or Yugo...

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I have no problem with the vehicles themselves…it’s the badging that I have an issue with. It may be a fantastic car (?) but it is NOT a Mustang or a Camaro. Are these designers so void of imagination that they can’t come up with a new name for their completely new creation?

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36 minutes ago, NOBLNG said:

... Are these designers so void of imagination that they can’t come up with a new name for their completely new creation?

Ummmmmmm...have you noticed how much of everything is new so mo better remakes of stuff done earlier?

EV market ...  When the one on the right cost millions to develop and they think it's an improvement...

waddya expeckt?

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10 hours ago, Bainford said:

 Maybe some of those young, hip engineers and designers in the sixties and seventies stepped outside for a smoke break...then, swimming in inspiration, went back inside and built us some cool cars.

Then not too long ago, after talent was considered to be no-longer-required, that 'teamwork' was superior to design-coherence, and every person in the room got to make a squiggle or line on the proposal, we ended up with...

2001 Pontiac Aztek - Specs, Prices, MPG, Reviews & Photos | Cars.com

                                                                            Nissan Juke Review: A Far Out Design - The New York Times

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17 hours ago, NYLIBUD said:

What the hell drugs are the guys in Detroit on?

As a Detroiter, I can say; Only the best. 

Due to my locale and age, I have friends and acquaintenances fairly high in the industry.  I get to (wastefully) voice my opinion and hear theirs. When I noted that the "Mock E" should have been the Maverick, and the Maverick (little truck) should have been the F100, I got, "Hmmmmm," as though. "we should have thought of that."

Years ago, I sat across from a Dodge exec. I noted how they wasted the name "Charger" on that four door monstrosity. While it's a pretty neat car, it's not a Charger. Now, they do the proper, two-door model, but there's no Hemi...only cells and wires. 

The "Camaro" just falls in line with Chevy so closely following the Mustang styling since 1968. You can barely tell the two apart anymore (though the Mustang would be in front). Making a housewife version is just another in the line.  

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18 hours ago, Rob Hall said:

In the olden days, pickup trucks could also haul a 4x8 w/ the tailgate shut...but the vast majority of pickups today have short 5.5 or 6 ft beds..

Though this is another topic...I did listen to the wife "complaining loudly" at the husband who, in the big box hardware store parking lot, and while sliding 2x4's through the open rear window, broke the windshield. 

I just easily slid my full sheets of plywood onto the floor of my 1970 F-100 with a smile.  

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^^^ That new oh so mo better Capri is just horrible. Another example of "everyone in the room got to mark up the drawing".

I've never before seen a design that tried to make a visual virtue of unsprung weight.

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45 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

2001 Pontiac Aztek - Specs, Prices, MPG, Reviews & Photos | Cars.com

                                                                            Nissan Juke Review: A Far Out Design - The New York Times

I think the Aztec (spelling)? was voted the all time ugliest car ever made.Gotta agree with that.Years ago my old man rents one in yellow on a trip to Florida 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

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