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Well, I'm glad the company's not trying to charge us each time we say "Chevrolet" or "Chevy". Though, if there was some reasonable way to do it, they would.

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geez, sounds like a bunch of third graders. B)

Sure glad I'm a Ford man. :)

:)

I'm with you Chuck. Always have and always will buy Fords.

:rolleyes: Jeff :rolleyes:

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In light of the enormous response to this controversy, Chevy has posted a link to an interview with their marketing director on their website. It's something of an exercise in generalities.

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You know what, I'll bite and leave a comment.

This is pretty stupid on gm's part, but some of you guy's need to give it up.

Yea we know that they've been in the hole asking for money, so u don't have to bring it up over and over again. Alot of people say gm's worst time of vehicales was in the 80- early 00's, but all for there own.

I my self LOVE my 99 sonoma, just love it because it's a gm. I eventually wanna drop in a 350, and do other numerous things to it.

One more thing, everybody saying "I'm going to the ford dealership next" is getting really annoying, do we really care, NO!!!

I like all domestic cars, and every car now a days is made in foriegn parts of the world, and I also Canada isn't really "foriegn", just thought I'd let everybody know that this is a bunch of stupid stuff, and give it up about gm, we still don't here complaining over toyota's "problems".

I'm just getting real sick and tired of the childish comments and such.

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I for one can not understand why anyone would support any company that needs tax payers money to stay in businesses.I do not think that we in this county were taught that welfare is a right of passage. So what if they go out of businesses? They are not the only auto makers out there. Someone will just take their place. Like so many times before.

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Not 100% sure, but I think the Impala is built in Canada. Anyway, none of the North American vehicles are even marketed over here. It's a Daewoo you can drive to the Levee, or walk, but now you must call it a Chef roulais.

I believe the Corvette and the Cadillacs are sold in the UK, no?

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So what if they go out of businesses?

Two things come to my mind right away:

1. Loads of auto workers will be out of job.

2. Loads of part suppliers will be out of business.

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Two things come to my mind right away:

1. Loads of auto workers will be out of job.

2. Loads of part suppliers will be out of business.

Exectly^^^^

Now, I don't like the new rides they produce much, but give me a brand new silverado(don't even mention ford, I hate em and think there ugly), or there 10-15 year old products, I'm fine with it.

Why do people like me support automaker using tax money to say alive, is because I have been around gm vehicales all my life, and always buy gm. Why you ask????

Simple. Everybody has a choice and a opinion, and that's mine.

I don't think GM is going in the can any time soon, think about it, if there weren't people out there like me who would accually support them, then they would never get back to normal and wold STILL be taking ball outs, Like I said give it up.

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Personally, even with all of this, I'll still buy a GM or Chrysler product long before I'll buy a Ford or Toyota. Just trust those two brands not to try and kill me than I trust a Toyota or Ford not too.

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Personally, even with all of this, I'll still buy a GM or Chrysler product long before I'll buy a Ford or Toyota. Just trust those two brands not to try and kill me than I trust a Toyota or Ford not too.

What in the world does that mean??? Ford and Toyota are out to kill you? That's absurd.

All cars sold in the US have to meet the exact same safety requirements. And every carmaker has had their share of recalls... there's no one brand that's "safer" than any other. No carmaker intentionally builds unsafe cars.

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I believe the Corvette and the Cadillacs are sold in the UK, no?

Yes, but not through the Chevrolet (nee Daewoo) dealerships. Those guys hardly know what a Corvette is.

You can buy pretty any current US-Car, SUV or light truck here in the UK though, but, apart from a few 'official' models sold through selected GM/Vauxhall or Chrysler Dealerships, most are sold by independent importers. Even the Mustangs aren't sold by Ford UK.

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I know it's a worn out subject,but I think GM and Chrysler should have been left to restructure. The bailout pretty much left them to business as usual. They both have nice looking products,but that's where it ends.I work on these cars and trucks (Ford,GM,Chrysler)the quality and fit and finish of these vehicles are disappointing. I want to feel good about buying "American" but all they seem to care about is their profit margin, They are not like they were years ago, you still see 40,50 yr and older american cars. Todays cars are just throw away recyclables. :rolleyes:

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They are not like they were years ago, you still see 40,50 yr and older american cars. Todays cars are just throw away recyclables. :)

That's been my biggest gripe against the major car manufacturers since the '80's. Forgettable styling thrown in with mediocre quality does not a good brand make.

Now they're trying to play catch-up and it's too little too late. :blink:

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GM now has radio spots saying that the new Malibu's interior styling,quality and comfort is better than a 528 BMW. I don't think so. :) That's a real stretch to try and convince people to buy their cars :blink:

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Exectly^^^^

Now, I don't like the new rides they produce much, but give me a brand new silverado(don't even mention ford, I hate em and think there ugly), or there 10-15 year old products, I'm fine with it.

Why do people like me support automaker using tax money to say alive, is because I have been around gm vehicales all my life, and always buy gm. Why you ask????

Simple. Everybody has a choice and a opinion, and that's mine.

I don't think GM is going in the can any time soon, think about it, if there weren't people out there like me who would accually support them, then they would never get back to normal and wold STILL be taking ball outs, Like I said give it up.

So you think that all the other manufactures would not increase their production and create those missing jobs? So you really think this country was founded on welfare? What makes it right just because a company gets so big that it deserves tax payers money to survive? This way of thinking is why we are in the trouble in this country. Failure Is a part of life. Deal with it.

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So you think that all the other manufactures would not increase their production and create those missing jobs? So you really think this country was founded on welfare? What makes it right just because a company gets so big that it deserves tax payers money to survive? This way of thinking is why we are in the trouble in this country. Failure Is a part of life. Deal with it.

Ok cool replie man!

I didn't say anything about welfare, and it wasen't gm's fault, it was retard Rick wagoner who screws up the whole company, makes people like you hate it, then goes and quits. What I'm saying is I really don't care what the company is in finachially, if I like the car, I'm gonna buy it, simple. Gm and Chrysler vehicales are way better looking in my opion then Toyota or ford, when I see a new ford, I think, "look at me, I got plastic bling bling".

Oh and btw, I'm from canada, driving my good ol' gm automobile, do I care, no.

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What in the world does that mean??? Ford and Toyota are out to kill you? That's absurd.

All cars sold in the US have to meet the exact same safety requirements. And every carmaker has had their share of recalls... there's no one brand that's "safer" than any other. No carmaker intentionally builds unsafe cars.

With the electronics and gas tank fires as well as roll over issues Fords have had as well as Toyota's until recently unwillingness to accept any responsibility for there faulty drive by wire electronics/programming, I will not buy their products for a looooong time.

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would be much better if instead of stopping at the levee they just drove the chevy right over the levee and into the drink.

and i like chevrolet too...

as an aside: god i hate that song. the bit about altamont is a real joke. that dude wasnt there. i was. best rolling stones show i ever saw and the only people i saw the 81s beating on were people stupid enough to kick their bikes. wrong move there bud and now you get to see the consequences.

that meredith hunter thing was pretty messed up but back then the only reason you went to something like that with a pistol in your pocket was to cause trouble. and dude found trouble all right.

ahem...sorry. just has bugged me ever since.

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So you think that all the other manufactures would not increase their production and create those missing jobs? So you really think this country was founded on welfare? What makes it right just because a company gets so big that it deserves tax payers money to survive? This way of thinking is why we are in the trouble in this country. Failure Is a part of life. Deal with it.

There is no way production from other manufacturers can ramp up that fast to replace all those missing jobs, not to mention they don't need to hire that many people for additional production.

You also have to consider the ripple effect. My dad works in one of the biggest auto parts supplier in North America that produce parts for Ford, GM, Chrysler and Honda, plus lately Toyota. The killing of the Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice alone caused an entire factory to close up. The GM/Chrysler/Ford factory idle caused him to stay home for 3 months. If it were not for a timely contract with Toyota, he would have lost his job already. If it were a smaller scale shop that only operates one or two factory, the entire business would have gone bust already.

Now consider if both GM and Chrysler just "failed". Immediately everyone who work for them will be unemployed. Their dealerships and suppliers will also be in serious trouble; the ones that deal exclusively with them will definitely go out of business. And when those dealerships and suppliers fail, the companies that do business with them will also be affected. This will go on for several layers.

It is simple to say the US is not founded on welfare and failure is just a part of life we need to deal with. In reality, you cannot afford to have that many people unemployed and that many businesses go bankrupt. Not bailing out GM and Chrysler with tax payers' money would have caused far worse consequences to the society.

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There is no way production from other manufacturers can ramp up that fast to replace all those missing jobs, not to mention they don't need to hire that many people for additional production.

You also have to consider the ripple effect. My dad works in one of the biggest auto parts supplier in North America that produce parts for Ford, GM, Chrysler and Honda, plus lately Toyota. The killing of the Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice alone caused an entire factory to close up. The GM/Chrysler/Ford factory idle caused him to stay home for 3 months. If it were not for a timely contract with Toyota, he would have lost his job already. If it were a smaller scale shop that only operates one or two factory, the entire business would have gone bust already.

Now consider if both GM and Chrysler just "failed". Immediately everyone who work for them will be unemployed. Their dealerships and suppliers will also be in serious trouble; the ones that deal exclusively with them will definitely go out of business. And when those dealerships and suppliers fail, the companies that do business with them will also be affected. This will go on for several layers.

It is simple to say the US is not founded on welfare and failure is just a part of life we need to deal with. In reality, you cannot afford to have that many people unemployed and that many businesses go bankrupt. Not bailing out GM and Chrysler with tax payers' money would have caused far worse consequences to the society.

I do think the ripple effect is all ready here. The problem is when company gets so big that it has to be supported by tax payers money it is no longer a business worth anything. Why not bail out every business? That only seem s fare does it not? Then we will all have jobs. Everyone business that goes out more jobs are lost. Is that not so? We tax payers should give money for anyone that runs their business into bankruptcy. Sounds like a good plan. You got the money tax payer. I can run my business into bankruptcy , because all I have to do is ask you tax payers for the money to bail me out. Works for me. That goes for Wall Street also. Send your tax dollars to your friendly bankrupt company today. They need it.

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