a common language that separates us

[bbowser]

Harry hit it right. Different generations communicate differently. For those of us old enough to remember B&W TV, our parents didn't understand our obsession with the 'new media' and their parents didn't see the big fuss over radio. And now it's our turn to not understand . If you're standing still you're losing ground.

[charlie8575]

  On 3/19/2012 at 9:58 PM, Harry P. said:

If some of those gibberish posts are people doing the best they can, what does that say for the education system in this country?

After nine years of teaching, let's just say I've decided that if I ever have children, they will be home-schooled.

Charlie Larkin

[Jantrix]

  On 3/20/2012 at 10:31 PM, Bartster said:

......It is pointless to expect them to change their ways. Different dialects have developed within the same society for thousands of years. For the longest time, in America at least. This has translated mostly into accents. With the advent of the internet, cell phones & texting, there is actually a new vernacular developing.

i don't know that I agree with you on this. It seems to me that with less emphasis on learning proper written communication in schools or demanded by parents, this "new vernacular" is born of ignorance, and no good can come of it.

  On 3/20/2012 at 10:43 PM, Harry P. said:

And the younger bunch doesn't see what the big deal is, because texting and that style of communicating are what they grew up with and seems "normal" to them.

The younger bunch doesn't yet realize is that unless you are going to spend your life flipping burgers for minimum wage, decent written communication is a must have in the work place. Even my pal the auto mechanic is required to communicate exactly what work was done to each vehicle he works on because accountability is so important. Some of his fellow workers that can't write/spell/punctuate well are under serious pressure from up the chain to get with the program. I work for Honeywell Aerospace and writing in log books is what I do all day. If what I wrote or how I wrote it, isn't understandable, I'd be under some serious scrutiny from the managers considering I work with computers that go into space.

The military is now sending recruits to remedial language arts classes in boot camp for those that need it. It's sad really. Sometimes I think that silly movie "Idiocracy" will end up being prophetic.

Edited March 22, 2012 by Jantrix

[sjordan2]

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Edited March 22, 2012 by sjordan2

[Bartster]

Jantrix,

You actually did agree with me. I have 2 prime examples in my house. 16 & 10 yr old daughters who are both straight-honor roll students. I just dropped a lot of $ last night for a new outfit for a speech she is to give on Sat. for the honor society. She is so into technology that I have to ask her to put her "phone" down & come back to Earth. I guess my point is: No matter how a child is raised & educated, the power & appeal of technology is gonna get em.

[Jordan White]

  On 3/21/2012 at 5:22 PM, bbowser said:

Harry hit it right. Different generations communicate differently. For those of us old enough to remember B&W TV, our parents didn't understand our obsession with the 'new media' and their parents didn't see the big fuss over radio. And now it's our turn to not understand . If you're standing still you're losing ground.

The thing is though, there's a difference in say creating slang words versus writing like half your keyboard keys don't work. At least when the people from the seventies talked jive, they still could make complete sentences!

[Bartster]

  On 3/21/2012 at 1:36 AM, CadillacPat said:

What the heck is "Spell Check"?

It's amazing that only 50 years ago English, Spelling, Reading, Grammar, Punctuation and Sentence Structure were all taught in school, even Manners.

These subjects at that time were as fundamental as Math and History, not just in school but in all aspects of our daily lives.

It's easy to recognize a simple "tpyo" and although I try my best even my posts sometime contain a mistake or two.

Some Internet posts are a bit more revealing of people.

In today's world of instant gratification, especially on the Internet, there is no thought for taking the time to be precise.

For decades now Schools have been forced to get kids graduated no matter how ill prepared they are for the Real World.

Not long after I first joined here I would tune into that goofy "Lousy Barn Door" thread just to bust my gut laughing at the ridiculous meandering of that Member and to see how completely miswritten and misspelled his unintelligible ramblings would be.

Everything about that person's thread was so incredibly brainless that the extent of it's mistakes were actually compelling to read and laugh at.

It was like a bad car wreck that you could not turn away from, only hilarious.

[/Now, this is a Model Forum so as long as the info you post outweighs what we have to wade through to read and understand it, then your thread is a Plus.]

CadillacPat

...This might be the most insightful thing I've read in these forums!

[Chuck Most]

[charlie8575]

  On 3/25/2012 at 5:01 AM, Chuck Most said:

One of the funniest pictures I've ever seen relating to the "digital age." Yet, so very true. Even my lady, who is a little younger than I am (she's 29, I'm 36,) seems to think it's okay to actually try to articulate text and Internet "language." Where did you find that one? I need to give her that next time she goes off the deep-end.

Charlie Larkin

[Chuck Most]

Don't really recall where I found that picture- I think it was in an online article about the subject which triggered this thread.

[Dave Ambrose]

  On 3/19/2012 at 10:47 PM, XJ6 said:

I do believe....indeed some truth to that...Sad eh.....

Sometimes, I miss the old days when it was smart people sitting at dumb terminals.

[XJ6]

  On 3/25/2012 at 9:17 PM, Dave Ambrose said:

Sometimes, I miss the old days when it was smart people sitting at dumb terminals.

I agree 100%... for it is happening

[SSNJim]

  On 3/21/2012 at 5:22 PM, bbowser said:

Harry hit it right. Different generations communicate differently. For those of us old enough to remember B&W TV, our parents didn't understand our obsession with the 'new media' and their parents didn't see the big fuss over radio. And now it's our turn to not understand . If you're standing still you're losing ground.

True, different generations do communicate differently - radio, TV, newspapers, telephone, Internet, whatever. All those methods of communication all use the same language as is used in daily life, though. No one had to learn a new language, vernacular, lingo, or anything else to understand what was being presented over that media. Not so with the texting generation. I do understand the need to shorten messages on cell phones, but the usage should be confined to text messaging.

[Bartster]

Beg to differ a little, Jim. Much is new in computer/internet lingo. Words may be the same but meanings are different. "Cut" & "paste" come to mind. I know what they used to mean, but, being computer illiterate, I couldn't define them as they pertain to that technology.

[Harry P.]

  On 3/26/2012 at 2:44 AM, Bartster said:

Beg to differ a little, Jim. Much is new in computer/internet lingo. Words may be the same but meanings are different. "Cut" & "paste" come to mind. I know what they used to mean, but, being computer illiterate, I couldn't define them as they pertain to that technology.

You just posted here, so you can't really be computer illiterate!

[Bartster]

I'm on a cell phone that is very limited in it's capabilities. I've never turned on a computer. Most, if not all, of the "lingo" I've heard has been on this site in the last 3-4 months. I'd LOVE to learn more, just not feasible at this time. Ah, unless my phone is considered a computer? I got it in Sept. '11. My 1st exposure to the internet.

Edited March 26, 2012 by Bartster

[Harry P.]

  On 3/26/2012 at 3:52 AM, Bartster said:

I'm on a cell phone that is very limited in it's capabilities. I've never turned on a computer. Most, if not all, of the "lingo" I've heard has been on this site in the last 3-4 months. I'd LOVE to learn more, just not feasible at this time. Ah, unless my phone considered a computer?

Sure, why not?

[Bartster]

I suppose you're right, Harry. Never looked at it that way! From what I'm learning though, it is VERY limiting. No Photobucket access for example. There's no telling what else I'm missing out on.

[Harry P.]

  On 3/26/2012 at 4:00 AM, Bartster said:

I suppose you're right, Harry. Never looked at it that way! From what I'm learning though, it is VERY limiting. No Photobucket access for example. There's no telling what else I'm missing out on.

So get yourself a computer and join the fun!

[ZombieHunter26]

  On 3/26/2012 at 3:52 AM, Bartster said:

I'm on a cell phone that is very limited in it's capabilities. I've never turned on a computer. Most, if not all, of the "lingo" I've heard has been on this site in the last 3-4 months. I'd LOVE to learn more, just not feasible at this time. Ah, unless my phone is considered a computer?

If it's a smart phone, they have photobucket apps now! Also, fotki apps. When I was without a computer for a week waiting on the internet company, that app saved me some posting withdrawals.

[Bartster]

Love to Harry. Internet access is expensive & I'm told unreliable where I live. I did away with our credit cards 3 years ago & I have to have one to get it hooked up. We're still trying to figure out a way to get into the new swing of things. It's ironic. I lived in a big city my whole life & had no time or reason to get on the net. I've been in B.F. Egypt for over 2 years now & could really use it & it's just out of reach! So far!

[Bartster]

No smart phone. My 16 yr old has one that she can't live without. This is starting to read like a sob story & it's really not. I'm quite comfortable with the way things are for now. There are just other priorities that are more important. There have been other threads here dealing with this subject, but I'm still somewhat of a technophobe (?). Taking baby steps.

[SSNJim]

  On 3/26/2012 at 2:44 AM, Bartster said:

Beg to differ a little, Jim. Much is new in computer/internet lingo. Words may be the same but meanings are different. "Cut" & "paste" come to mind. I know what they used to mean, but, being computer illiterate, I couldn't define them as they pertain to that technology.

True enough, but the lingo/technology has little to do with the message being presented. If I sat you down in front of a computer monitor and brought up a news site for you to read while I operated the computer, you would receive the same message as if I handed you a newspaper or turned on a TV.

Lingo changes from activity to activity, and over time, and has nothing to do with the message, only the media.

[Bartster]

I agree Jim. I knew I was straying into a gray area & away from the actual message being sent. That's why I differed "a little". I was actually off topic while trying to convey my frustration at another area of techno-communication. I apologize. I'm sure my situation is not unique, but with texters in my house-daughter& wife, it's actually more frustrating for me to hear/read computer speak than text speak. Again, sorry to get off topic.

[Jon Cole]

Bart, what do you mean by "I've been in B.F. Egypt for over 2 years now"? I don't understand, your info says you are in Texas.

As for using a computer, why not use (and get to know) one at a nearby library?