Ace-Garageguy Posted November 10, 2016 Author Posted November 10, 2016 Almost a year later, and we're back. Some of the same stuff, almost exactly as on the big ol' 1/8 '32 model under the Big Boyz heading. After some more careful mocking-up, I decided to hog a little more out of the firewall to let the engine sit a bit higher in the chassis. And then the rear crossmember gets placed just the same way the big one did. After finally deciding to use a styrene Model A rear spring, it gets lightly glued to the rear axle to be used as a jig. I'll be using the trailing arms from one of the Revell '32 kits. I WAS going to do traditional split-wishbones, but after getting current again on buggy-spring rear suspension fairly recently, I found that the wayback split bones in the rear fell out of favor rather a long time ago. Seems the old bones will twist and crack with any power beyond what a mildly warmed-over flathead can produce, so the fabricated arms replaced the very traditional split wishbones in the rear almost entirely, many years ago. We'd used spacers under the kit's rear axle-positioner thingies to mock up the stance previously, and because these locate the axle precisely in the chassis at the right height as well as fore-and-aft, we'll tack the spring / axle assembly in place while we fit the previously-fabricated rear crossmember to just slip between the rails. Now, using the spring attached to the axle as our jig, we install the rear crossmember precisely where it needs to be to position the rear axle once the other jigs are removed permanently. Careful advance planning puts the forward ends of the trailing arms exactly where they need to be to catch the center crossmember we made earlier too. Looking more like a car all the time, and now we can figure out how high the trans tailshaft housing needs to be to achieve a realistic-looking angle between it and the driveshaft / rear end. This is where we'd get the rear end pinion-angle matched correctly to the centerline of the crank / trans mainshaft if this were a real car...and I can't help myself from trying to get it pretty close on my models.
tim boyd Posted November 10, 2016 Posted November 10, 2016 Bill......really like that way of mocking up the rear end and placing the crossmember accordingly. Also, heartily endorse the use of "props" (e.g., in this case the scale concrete blocks) in the photos. Best......TIm
crazyrichard Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 the look is just perfect !!! , love the brooklaands style windows ... i like the duval more because that gives the car look of seed while standing still .. kind of flows with the lines more .. but also like the new window set up .. you really have a perfect eye for all proportions and to get that real vintage look and feel
geewhiz Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Your mini tutorial on the rear crossmember is terrific and very neat way to avoid cutting up good frames!!! I'm looking forward to seeing more of this cool build!!!????????
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 16, 2016 Author Posted December 16, 2016 Bill......really like that way of mocking up the rear end and placing the crossmember accordingly. Your mini tutorial on the rear crossmember is terrific and very neat way to avoid cutting up good frames!!! Glad you guys found it useful. Avoiding "cutting up good frames" is exactly what I was thinking, and a lot of guys have expressed interest in doing rear buggy-springs on these things. That fabricated rear crossmember and the mockup procedure work equally well in reality...and doing things in accordance with real practice is always one of my considerations. Thanks to Richard and Andy for your comments as well.
mod3l Lover Posted December 17, 2016 Posted December 17, 2016 Love it!! That's all I got to say. David S.
Ace-Garageguy Posted December 17, 2016 Author Posted December 17, 2016 Love it!! That's all I got to say. Thanks, David. It seems to be on the short-list of builds to try to actually finish...so I must like it too.
Don Sikora II Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 Cool project. The Jo-Han Mercedes wheels look great on a hot rod!
mod3l Lover Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 Any updates on this one Bill? Please!?! David S.
bisc63 Posted May 12, 2019 Posted May 12, 2019 Ditto! Also, I really like your approach with regards to details accurate to a full-size auto. It is a MODEL, after all, and if it couldn't be reproduced on a real auto, then it's relally not a model is it?! I don't care much for model cars with wheels to large, stance too low or too high , etc, to actually work in the real world.
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 14, 2019 Author Posted May 14, 2019 Thanks a lot for your interest and comments, gentlemen. I haven't had much bench time lately, and what few minutes I can scrounge each day go towards finishing up the MSP Corvette. But as soon as it's in paint, this one is in the short list to get done.
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 14, 2019 Author Posted May 14, 2019 On 5/12/2019 at 5:53 PM, bisc63 said: Ditto! Also, I really like your approach with regards to details accurate to a full-size auto. It is a MODEL, after all, and if it couldn't be reproduced on a real auto, then it's relally not a model is it?! I don't care much for model cars with wheels to large, stance too low or too high , etc, to actually work in the real world. Thanks for your comment too, Rusty. Trying to keep it real usually seems to take a lot more time, but I'm much more satisfied in the end (which I rarely see) if I look at a model and it doesn't scream "toy". Though I appreciate many of the more outlandish build styles that have the "gotcha" factor mine usually lack, for the most part, it's not a style I work in...and I personally take the "model" definition to heart.
OldNYJim Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Is it time for another annual update on this one Bill? LOVE this build - and the thread has been very informative and educational!
Paul Payne Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Ace, this is a wonderful tutorial on how to set up a hot rod and nail the details- I love it! A few years ago I completed an A-v8 using a junker AMT body with the new Revell frame.
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 10, 2020 Author Posted June 10, 2020 On 5/17/2020 at 11:27 PM, CabDriver said: Is it time for another annual update on this one Bill? LOVE this build - and the thread has been very informative and educational! On 5/18/2020 at 8:38 AM, Paul Payne said: Ace, this is a wonderful tutorial on how to set up a hot rod and nail the details- I love it! A few years ago I completed an A-v8 using a junker AMT body with the new Revell frame. Thanks guys. This is another one I hadn't noticed had new comments, and is on the short list for re-start. Really like that black A-V8 on '32 rails too, Paul. That door latch, throttle linkage, and blued header flange detail really adds a lot.
tim boyd Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Bill....can't wait to see your latest update and progress......Cheers....TIM
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 13, 2020 Author Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 7:25 PM, tim boyd said: Bill....can't wait to see your latest update and progress......Cheers....TIM Thanks for your interest, Tim. On this one, I've been working on getting a color I really like to get me motivated again. Looking for something greenish that doesn't clash with the OEM nailhead engine color. Lotsa sprayouts when I have a few minutes, haven't hit the jackpot yet.
Paul Payne Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 Ace, are you going to have poseable steering? Just another gotcha factor, and I'm eager to see how you might approach it- pittman arm and drag link?
Dave72 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Your work on this is fantastic! I am in the process of getting all the parts and pieces together to build Wayne Carini’s 30 Ford 5 window coupe. The amount of info you have laid out here in your build is a great help! Thank you for sharing. Not to mention your build is looking great! Can’t wait to see more.
Mr. Metallic Posted February 2, 2022 Posted February 2, 2022 I'm glad when people bump this thread because I get to read through all the great fabrication that take us through again Bill. Just like all your other build threads. Hoping this will eventually make it back to your bench.
bobthehobbyguy Posted February 2, 2022 Posted February 2, 2022 I agree glad to see this bump. It is great threads like this that I learn so much from. The only reason I come to this site.
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 5, 2022 Author Posted February 5, 2022 Thanks for the continuing interest and comments, gentlemen. Glad some of you found something of value herein.
Dave72 Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Glad some of you found something of value herein. Lots of value! Great looking build so far. Very informative.
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