What Would You Wish For?

[Jeff Johnston]

Ahhhh the age old question, and my answers are always the same :-)

67 Galaxie Coupe and convertible

68 Galaxie Fastback or LTD roofline

66-69 Falcon - any year (though the 66-67 I prefer the roung tail lights)

69 or 70 Grand Prix

A corrected Revell 69 Mustang with Boss 302 and Mach 1 option

I'd also love to have the option to build a 70-73 Formula Firebird.

I have about a hundred more but those are the ones that are always on my wish list.

[GMP440]

The 68' Coronet R/T. We almost had it re-released back in June. However, it was cancelled. Dissappointed alot of modelers.

[LDO]

Hello all,

Wanna make a difference in the hobby try the following, cuz this tread is turning into a another huge list of subjects.

Either post your proposal here (so all the member can debate, and add to it) or send it to the manufacturer of your choice.

And don't be intimidated by the long read....

Thanks, and keep on supporting this great hobby!

Luc Janssens

Belgium

The $250,000 Question

So the bank agreed to loan you $250,000 to spend on an all new 1/25 Car tool. If the investment is paid back in the agreed time, let’s say 3 years, an extra $500,000 is coming your way for further releases. If you fail, say goodbye to the extra $500 000, and say hello to your new best friend, the repo man! (Insert crazy laugh here) ............

Luc Janssens

Luc-

I really hope this doesn't get started here at Model Cars. I found it really annoying at its old location. Someone will write an essay that makes perfect sense to them, all about why we need a model of a 1973 Pontiac. They'll go on and on, and their cheerleaders will all say "attaboy" and "I'd buy a case of 'em". In reality, they wouldn't buy a case of them. In fact, it would be a huge flop. Anyone who disagrees will labeled a jerk.

Everyone on this board is a "1 percenter" in the model-building world. We're the lunatic fringe. Model companies listening to us is a gamble. I'd love a 1/24 Lola T-70 in styrene, but I'm not sure 500,000 others want one enough to buy it. I'm not holding my breath for that or a new Duesenberg. What I will do is build my Tamiya 1/12 Lola T-70 and kitbash a Judkins Coupe body for a Duesenberg.

If the 250k challenge does find a home here, at least it will be one thread that can easily be ignored, rather than dominating the entire site for a month.

http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3991

[jamie]

All I've ever wanted was a VW JETTA made (1988 thru 1998; II & III). I have searched high and low for even a diecast of one of these but to no avail. They've made Golfs, Scrioccos, new beetles, but NO JETTAS.

[dub]

All I've ever wanted was a VW JETTA made (1988 thru 1998; II & III). I have searched high and low for even a diecast of one of these but to no avail. They've made Golfs, Scrioccos, new beetles, but NO JETTAS.

This puzzles me too. I am not a big Jetta fan, I guess because I consider myself somewhat eurocentric... (I do think that they are good parts cars...... ) There would ABSOLUTELY be a solid market for that car just from VW owners alone. That's not including us hobbyists.

This is one for: " Are you listening?" insert model manufacturer here______

......................well?

[Marc @ MPC Motorsports]

The 68' Coronet R/T. We almost had it re-released back in June. However, it was cancelled. Dissappointed alot of modelers.

You bet it did but it's not stopping me. See my thread that I started last night.

As for new models that I would like to see:

Volkswagen Type III - notch, fastback and wagon.

GM '73-77 A Bodies - Chevelle Laguna, Buick Century, Olds 442, Pontiac Grand Am, street versions of the NASCAR warriers

'78-80 Chevy Malibu, Buick Turbo Coupe fastback, Pontiac Grand Am

1978 Ford Fairmont - two door sedan and Futura

1978 Plymouth Volare Super Coupe

1978 Dodge Magnum

1980-81 Dodge Mirada

Edited November 24, 2007 by Marc @ MPC Motorsports

[CAL]

The $250,000?

The Porsche 550 Spyder

For the Enthusiast, Complete with engine detail, opening doors, bonnet and high detailed interior, exterior, chassis and suspension and engine compartment. Build street stock or James Dean’s Lil’ Bastared.

The 550 is an important missing link with historical significance not withstanding it’s the car that the late Hollywood teen idol James Dean had is fatal accident in: chassis “500-055†which Dean call the Lil Bastared.

Porsche’s earliest success in road racing and particularly the 24 hrs of Le Manse came in a 550. It also had a win in the small liter class at the 1955 24 hours of Le Mans and came in fourth overall. The 550 spyder was also awarded the Index of Performance: the car with the best-combined speed and economy throughout the entire field.

In addition, today, the 550 spyder, with her smooth sexy lines, has become a highly sought after collectable classic. With only about 10 examples left in the world and it’s no surprise they go for millions of dollars at the action house.

The Key kit elements.

1. Well engineered easy to build kit with exceptional detail. (along the lines of Tamiya in engineering and Accurate Miniatures detail. An additional PE fret of scripts, small details and engine grills would also be included in the approximately 150 part kit.

2. The box with the 550 gracefully pictured on the top would also include Fujimi’s body window so you can see the high detail and sexy lines of the model 550.

3. The easy to read simple to follow instruction book would have supporting black and white photos and would included an exploded view, parts layout, and three view drawings for reference and would go into tips and tricks to aid the builder in the construction of this magnificent model.

What’s getting the ax?

The first thing that would go would the engine, which would probably reduce cost by a significant amount. It would turn the kit into a curbside and give some aftermarket resin casters a chance to do a trans kit for it.

[Guest roadkill2525]

Most of what I want are reissues such as the Monogram's High Performance series.

The return of parts packs would be great also, not just reissued packs but new ones like

Engines

Covette LS7

Buick LC2

Chevy/Pontiac 350 w/ TPI and TBI

Ford 5.0L Fuel Injected

6.1 Hemi

Parts

Branded packs from Crager, B&M/Hurst, Grant, Weld, etc.

[Aaronw]

Most of what I want are reissues such as the Monogram's High Performance series.

The return of parts packs would be great also, not just reissued packs but new ones like

Engines

Covette LS7

Buick LC2

Chevy/Pontiac 350 w/ TPI and TBI

Ford 5.0L Fuel Injected

6.1 Hemi

Parts

Branded packs from Crager, B&M/Hurst, Grant, Weld, etc.

A Ford Powerstroke or Dodge / Cummins diesel would probably do quite well as a parts pack.

[Luc Janssens]

Luc-

I really hope this doesn't get started here at Model Cars. I found it really annoying at its old location. Someone will write an essay that makes perfect sense to them, all about why we need a model of a 1973 Pontiac. They'll go on and on, and their cheerleaders will all say "attaboy" and "I'd buy a case of 'em". In reality, they wouldn't buy a case of them. In fact, it would be a huge flop. Anyone who disagrees will labeled a jerk.

Everyone on this board is a "1 percenter" in the model-building world. We're the lunatic fringe. Model companies listening to us is a gamble. I'd love a 1/24 Lola T-70 in styrene, but I'm not sure 500,000 others want one enough to buy it. I'm not holding my breath for that or a new Duesenberg. What I will do is build my Tamiya 1/12 Lola T-70 and kitbash a Judkins Coupe body for a Duesenberg.

If the 250k challenge does find a home here, at least it will be one thread that can easily be ignored, rather than dominating the entire site for a month.

http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3991

Well you're entitled to your opinion, as well as I am, the vote on the original 250K question wasn't important, but the proposals were.

I agree that there were subjects, that didn't have a chance in hell, of ever materializing, but sometimes they have some good ideas in them and that is what matters, cuz the manufacturers do read it and compare it with data they have, heck some industry insiders even helped me refining my idea.

So again, more power to you if you're just happy building, and I can't be blamed for not trying to make a difference.

Enjoy the remainder of you weekend.

Luc

[CAL]

Well you're entitled to your opinion, as well as I am, the vote on the original 250K question wasn't important, but the proposals were.

I agree that there were subjects, that didn't have a chance in hell, of ever materializing, but sometimes they have some good ideas in them and that is what matters, cuz the manufacturers do read it and compare it with data they have, heck some industry insiders even helped me refining my idea.

So again, more power to you if you're just happy building, and I can't be blamed for not trying to make a difference.

Enjoy the remainder of you weekend.

Luc

I have done this when Luc first came out with the idea and was voted on. I think it came in forth or something. Nevertheless, since, about a year and half later the kit was on the shelves.

I can say reading peoples wish-list has never done anything for me. However, reading some of the responses to Luc's post has changed my mind about the validity of doing a particular kit.

Who, what, why and when still makes a better argument that

Nissan GT-R, 2007

Chevy Silverado 1500

2007 Chevy Silverado 2500HD

90's Callaway Twin Turbo Corvette

Porsche 911 GT2.

2008 Cadillac CTS

2006 to current Pontiac Soltstice, or 2007-08 Saturn Sky

Current Cadillac Escalade

2007 Ford Interceptor Concept Car

2008 Pontiac G8 (top line version)

1968-70 Mustang Shelby GT350-GT500KR Convertible

1957-58 Studebaker Golden Hawk (Long Shot! )

1959 Corvette Stingray Racer

1964-65 Shelby Daytona Coupe

1970 Plymouth Barracuda coupe and convertible (a CORRECT one!)

51 Studebaker Starlight coupe

truck kits (light and medium duty)

BMWs (M3, M5, M6, 545, etc)

Mercs (CLS, SL, S-class, etc)

Audis (TT, RS6, S5, etc

'08 CTS

'70 Plymouth Sport Fury GT

'67 Pontiac 2+2

'71 Caddy Coupe de Ville

'71 Buick Centurion convertible

'73 Chevelle SS

'73 Buick Gran Sport

'73 Grand Am

'85-86 Mustang GT

'87 Grand Prix 2+2, etc..

Accura Spice

Cadillac CTS-V

Calloway Corvette C5R

Spiker GT2

Momo Nissan GTP

Toyota Eagles GTP (early and late versions)

Porsche RS Spyder

Zytek Creation CA06

Acura ARX-01

Aston Martin Vanquish

A'57 Olds

1972 torino

1973 Buick Century

1977 Olds Cutlass Supreme

80's Dodge Diplomat

80's Ford Crown Vic

80's Ford "Baby" LTD

'46-48 Plymouth coupe

Mclaren F1 road car

1/24 Lola T70 coupe

67 Galaxie Coupe and convertible

68 Galaxie Fastback or LTD roofline

66-69 Falcon - any year (though the 66-67 I prefer the roung tail lights)

69 or 70 Grand Prix

A corrected Revell 69 Mustang with Boss 302 and Mach 1 option

70-73 Formula Firebird.

A little overwhelming... imagine an model exec going through this list...

Verses something a little more thought out in terms of a compeling argument for producing a particular kit. I'd throw this list right in the dumpster.

Edited November 25, 2007 by CAL

[jbwelda]

maybe i misunderstood the point but:

>hard to find the FJ40

there are numerous FJ40s being sold by either fujimi or aioshima, i forget which. i dont have any but they look to be well done and there are a number of variations.

i would like an FJ55 but i dont personally own an iron pig. i do own a FJ60 (pictured above) hence the interest.

i would also like to see a volkswagen thing but again not so sure anyone would agree and the guy above who says yeah i might want it but not enough other people would to make it reasonable to invest in it.

[Aaronw]

maybe i misunderstood the point but:

>hard to find the FJ40

there are numerous FJ40s being sold by either fujimi or aioshima, i forget which. i dont have any but they look to be well done and there are a number of variations.

i would like an FJ55 but i dont personally own an iron pig. i do own a FJ60 (pictured above) hence the interest.

i would also like to see a volkswagen thing but again not so sure anyone would agree and the guy above who says yeah i might want it but not enough other people would to make it reasonable to invest in it.

Only Landcruiser kits I know of are a Tamiya FJ80(? or what ever the current-ish LC is) and an old Bandai or Esci kit of the FJ40, then there is a charactured FJ40 by Tamiya in an odd smaller scale. I haven't seen one from Fujimi or Aoshima but I don't see many auto kits from those brands so that is not surprising.

I have an FJ55 but not an FJ60 so we are just reversed there, like you I'd be happy to have a kit of the other but would prefer the one I own.

Edited November 25, 2007 by Aaronw

[Aaronw]

I have done this when Luc first came out with the idea and was voted on. I think it came in forth or something. Nevertheless, since, about a year and half later the kit was on the shelves.

I can say reading peoples wish-list has never done anything for me. However, reading some of the responses to Luc's post has changed my mind about the validity of doing a particular kit.

Who, what, why and when still makes a better argument that

Nissan GT-R, 2007

Chevy Silverado 1500

2007 Chevy Silverado 2500HD

90's Callaway Twin Turbo Corvette

Porsche 911 GT2.

2008 Cadillac CTS

2006 to current Pontiac Soltstice, or 2007-08 Saturn Sky

Current Cadillac Escalade

2007 Ford Interceptor Concept Car

2008 Pontiac G8 (top line version)

1968-70 Mustang Shelby GT350-GT500KR Convertible

1957-58 Studebaker Golden Hawk (Long Shot! )

1959 Corvette Stingray Racer

1964-65 Shelby Daytona Coupe

1970 Plymouth Barracuda coupe and convertible (a CORRECT one!)

51 Studebaker Starlight coupe

truck kits (light and medium duty)

BMWs (M3, M5, M6, 545, etc)

Mercs (CLS, SL, S-class, etc)

Audis (TT, RS6, S5, etc

'08 CTS

'70 Plymouth Sport Fury GT

'67 Pontiac 2+2

'71 Caddy Coupe de Ville

'71 Buick Centurion convertible

'73 Chevelle SS

'73 Buick Gran Sport

'73 Grand Am

'85-86 Mustang GT

'87 Grand Prix 2+2, etc..

Accura Spice

Cadillac CTS-V

Calloway Corvette C5R

Spiker GT2

Momo Nissan GTP

Toyota Eagles GTP (early and late versions)

Porsche RS Spyder

Zytek Creation CA06

Acura ARX-01

Aston Martin Vanquish

A'57 Olds

1972 torino

1973 Buick Century

1977 Olds Cutlass Supreme

80's Dodge Diplomat

80's Ford Crown Vic

80's Ford "Baby" LTD

'46-48 Plymouth coupe

Mclaren F1 road car

1/24 Lola T70 coupe

67 Galaxie Coupe and convertible

68 Galaxie Fastback or LTD roofline

66-69 Falcon - any year (though the 66-67 I prefer the roung tail lights)

69 or 70 Grand Prix

A corrected Revell 69 Mustang with Boss 302 and Mach 1 option

70-73 Formula Firebird.

A little overwhelming... imagine an model exec going through this list...

Verses something a little more thought out in terms of a compeling argument for producing a particular kit. I'd throw this list right in the dumpster.

Sure if you were writting a letter to one of the model companies, but I think the point of these posts is usually just to let people have a little fun with their "If I were king for a day" kit lists and you know sometimes something useful actually comes out of these, there is usually at least one person who finds out that in fact one of their "wish" kits actually has been made.

[LVZ2881]

You bet it did but it's not stopping me. See my thread that I started last night.

As for new models that I would like to see:

Volkswagen Type III - notch, fastback and wagon.

GM '73-77 A Bodies - Chevelle Laguna, Buick Century, Olds 442, Pontiac Grand Am, street versions of the NASCAR warriers

'78-80 Chevy Malibu, Buick Turbo Coupe fastback, Pontiac Grand Am

1978 Plymouth Volare Super Coupe

I see we share some similar taste in kits....

thats about 1/2 of my list

add to that:

new-tool '56 F100 pickup

new tool '79 Z28

new-tool or repop '74-77 camaro

'74 gto

new-tool or repop of an '88-'90 IROC

'77 Poncho Can-Am

'68 Skylark with GS400 option

new-or repop Vega's and Monza's

'74 T/A SD455

'76 T/A

oh, and a '70 GTO, '70 442, and '70 GS455 stage 1

Edited November 25, 2007 by LVZ2881

[CAL]

Sure if you were writting a letter to one of the model companies, but I think the point of these posts is usually just to let people have a little fun with their "If I were king for a day" kit lists and you know sometimes something useful actually comes out of these, there is usually at least one person who finds out that in fact one of their "wish" kits actually has been made.

You'd be surprised who reads these posts.

[Luc Janssens]

Sure if you were writting a letter to one of the model companies, but I think the point of these posts is usually just to let people have a little fun with their "If I were king for a day" kit lists and you know sometimes something useful actually comes out of these, there is usually at least one person who finds out that in fact one of their "wish" kits actually has been made.

well...some model companies re-make kits from a competitor.

Again some of the out of this world proposals have some pretty good ideas in them, which will help the enthusiast as well as the novice builder assembling a better model.

Also sometimes you read about a kit, and you're wondering why it's released in this configuration, when it would've been more more interesting with options x, y, z..., such ideas come from enthusiasts too, you can't expect that the people of model companies know every little detail from every car made.

Thx

Luc

[jbwelda]

>I have an FJ55 but not an FJ60 so we are just reversed there, like you I'd be happy to have a kit of the other but would

>prefer the one I own.

OT and sorry for that but if you ever want to go for a wheeling day or two east of the sierras, drop me a pm. i go out to mono lake down to death valley quite often and it would be nice to get a pic of our rigs together.

[LDO]

Well you're entitled to your opinion, as well as I am, the vote on the original 250K question wasn't important, but the proposals were.

I agree that there were subjects, that didn't have a chance in hell, of ever materializing, but sometimes they have some good ideas in them and that is what matters, cuz the manufacturers do read it and compare it with data they have, heck some industry insiders even helped me refining my idea.

So again, more power to you if you're just happy building, and I can't be blamed for not trying to make a difference.

Enjoy the remainder of you weekend.

Luc

Like the '73 Pontiac that won a couple of years ago? That was a big waste. It would be a flop. If the contest were about a subject that many people would buy that's one thing, but when it's a popularity/essay contest, it's all just pointless. No matter how many people are swayed by an essay, it's another matter entirely to convince them to part with 14 dollars for a model car.

[Aaronw]

>I have an FJ55 but not an FJ60 so we are just reversed there, like you I'd be happy to have a kit of the other but would

>prefer the one I own.

OT and sorry for that but if you ever want to go for a wheeling day or two east of the sierras, drop me a pm. i go out to mono lake down to death valley quite often and it would be nice to get a pic of our rigs together.

Mono Lake is just over Tioga pass for me, the pass is closed right now but I might take you up on that in the late spring. Mine doesn't get out nearly as much as it should and the fuel prices certainly haven't helped it get to play.

[Darin Bastedo]

While this isn't so much my wish list as it is, a list of what I would tool if I won the Powerball, and started my own company. Even though this isn't a personal wish list, most if not all I would buy and build. While many add to their wish list the caveat of "Tamiya" Quality, I would be more shooting for Revell Simplicity, along with Tamiya level of fit and finish. Here is my list in no particular order;

1. 1965 GTO. I know AMT has one, but it sucks.

2. Porsche 911 GT2

3. 1929 Ford Roadster, with options to build it to look just like this one. And yeah, as a bonus I'll throw in a scale pup tent.

4. 1957 Ford done in a similar fashion to the 1949 Merc from Revell

5. Aston Martin Vanquish

6. Ferrari Berlinetta Lusso

7. Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder

8. Cobra Daytona Coupe

9. 1935 Chevy Coupe w/ options to build it to look like this.

10. 1962 Corvette Again, I know that AMT made one, but it also sucks.

To be continued...

[Darin Bastedo]

11. 1956 Ford F-100, yeah Revell makes one, Guess what? yeah it sucks too.

12. 1930 Ford Hot Rod kit. This would be loaded to the gills with so many optional parts and vintage accessories that most vintage rod modelers would buy them just for the parts.

13. 1969 Mustang Convertible, followed later by a coupe or fastback

14. 2005 Mustang Mach I

15. Drew Hierwarter's '28 Ford Lakes Roadster

16. Vector W8

All these kits would have a parts count around 130 - 160 not counting accesories. They would be detailed but not difficult to assemble, and I would hire real live artists to create exciting boxart, to inspire the builder.

[jbwelda]

>I would hire real live artists to create exciting boxart, to inspire the builder.

i think that one in front of auto zone is pretty inspirational!

i am totally with you on your choices and especially wonder why this one hasnt been picked up by anyone:

>5. Aston Martin Vanquish

thats a bad ride. i also love the newish same-class cars from Maserati, i forget the designation. theres an exotic car dealership down the street that gets them in occasionally...

i also would love to get some old iron with good parts count and vintage or offbeat accessories

whats wrong with that vette? ive got one on the shelf and when they came out werent they supposed to be state of the art? or am i thinking of a different vette? the one im thinking of was a "pro shop" issue if i remember right.

[CAL]

>I would hire real live artists to create exciting boxart, to inspire the builder.

i think that one in front of auto zone is pretty inspirational!

i am totally with you on your choices and especially wonder why this one hasnt been picked up by anyone:

>5. Aston Martin Vanquish

thats a bad ride. i also love the newish same-class cars from Maserati, i forget the designation. theres an exotic car dealership down the street that gets them in occasionally...

i also would love to get some old iron with good parts count and vintage or offbeat accessories

whats wrong with that vette? ive got one on the shelf and when they came out werent they supposed to be state of the art? or am i thinking of a different vette? the one im thinking of was a "pro shop" issue if i remember right.

A lot of times it's not some company not wanting to do a kit. Sometimes it is just the cost of licensing.

Audi/VW group wants too much for licensing and is why you don't see any A4s, Passats, ect. I am real surprised there was an R8 released. It had been talked about for a long time but no one could afford the licensing.

Maybe if the German Court allows the hostile takeover of VW and its offspring Audi, Lamborghini, Bentley, Bugatti, SEAT, and Skoda by Porsche they will loosen up a bit.

Which sounds like it’s going to happen.

The European Court of Justice overturned the “VW Law†However, is probably going to result in an appeal or lawsuit.

And Porsche as taken out a 46 billion dollar loan, which has said they, at least hinted at, standing up to GM and Toyota as the largest automaker in the world.

[rollinoldskoo]

here's my list....

63-65 Buick Riviera (this could be a optioned as the new merc)

71-72 Buick Riviera

late 70s-early 80s Chevy Malibu 2-door (hot rod, prostreet or lowrider)

96 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham (could be based on the 94 impala kits)

68 Chevy Impala (could be based on the 67 impala kits)

69-71 Grand Prix

73-87 Chevy Pickup 2wd shortbed

56-68 Chevy fullsize 4-door wagons

oh and as far as the new and current kits.... i think their sales would probably better without "Donks" At least show the car built stock in the boxart.....