Revell Miss Deal Conversion?

[10thumbs]

Hello folks,

What other body could I use for the Miss Deal kit?

I ordered the thing for some parts, and/or eventually using the foundation to build something else.

I like altereds, but I'll admit I need to do lots of research to get them right if I want to start bashing kits. The Wild Willy Borsch / Bantam Roadster kits are hard to find so I would like to ask here for some thoughts.

Thanks in advance,

Michael

[Draggon]

I put the old Revell Willys, the one with opening doors, on it. All it needed was trimming of the Miss Deal floorpan. Seems to me I messed around with a few Vettes too. Its very popular to swap other bodies onto the chassis, I'm sure others will have more feedback.

[oldnslow]

I lengthened mine 1/2" and put it under a 51 Chevy.

[cobraman]

You can just about use any body you want, you will just need to do some mods to either the body or chassis. Pick a body you like and make it work. Have fun !

[Matt T.]

'57 - '67 Corvettes pretty much drop right onto the Miss Deal wheelbase, IIRC.

[10thumbs]

Excellent! Thanks guys.

I was looking at the "Awful Altereds" Website, and then at different Resin shops, I'm getting the picture now.

For the altereds, is it possible to use a 70's - 80's funny car chassis? They seem a lot more detailed than the Miss Deal car.

Anyone have some insight?

Michael

[espo]

Saw a resin body of a '58 Edsel with an altered wheel base, now that would be defferant.

[jwrass]

Mike, There is a book titled Fuel Altereds Forever / Author Steve Reyes that was published by CarTech in 2008 (www.cartechbooks.com) This is a must have for any Altered Fan! You will not find a better book for reference material and the History of those Wild Machines and the Warriors who drove them like Wild Willie, Mike Sullivan, Dale Emery, Rich Guasco, Dave Hough and the rest of the cast of characters with stones as big as bowling balls.

In the trading post section I have for trade A Wild Willie and the Bantam Blast. Both kits are factory sealed. if you are interested give me a shout!

Most Conversion resin bodies I have seen recommend The Wild Willie or Bantam blast kits for the chassis, However you could modify a Funny or build your own chassis from round styrene, brass or copper

I personally have a Fiat, 23 T and a 32 Bantam resin bodies from Competition Resin. Even though the kits come with the 23 T and the Bantam bodies I find the resin bodies to be more realistic. Slixx Has some great decals for some of the major players, I have Nanook, Pure Hell and two Mike Sullivans.

I look forward to seeing your builds!!! Fuel Altereds Forever!!!!!!

[10thumbs]

Thanks James for the link and book recommendation. You have a PM.

I've run across some Resin bodies that look interesting, and I've found out the Revell early funny cars are a good foundation.

Research is fun!

Michael

[Modelmartin]

Hate to be a buzzkill but the Miss deal is not an altered or a gasser! Moving rear axles forward was an FX (pre funny car) thing. A few vintage cars were built that way over the years. Most raced in brackets or were match race type vehicles. I am not aware of any classes they fit in.

Having said that, one could still have a lot of fun with that chassis. It has a lot of nice detail. How about one of the Aurora Monogram Aston-Martins? You could totally go 007 with that one!

[W-409]

I used a Miss Deal Studebaker chassis for my '59 Simca Vedette. It was AirTrax body (that was damaged in the molding process). It didn't fit perfectly, but I had to narrow the floor a little, stretch the frame and move one of those frame's crossmembers a bit to get front axle fit on correct place. A new roll cage had to be built, too. Those modifications might sound like they were really complicated, but actually it was a quite easy process.

[jwrass]

Martin makes some excellent points with regards to Classes and yes it is a fun kit with some interesting parts for bashing!!! I'll take Mine with Blue Goose or Kettle One, Shaken please

Niko, Interesting build and very nice as well!!! Call me ignorant I have never heard of a Simca Vedette. Nice touch with the rubber on the quarters

Mike, I didn't mention this in my last post but I used to run a 32 Bantam in the early 70s, I had the chassis built by R&B Chassis ( Dennis Roland & John Buttera, yep Lil John) in Kenosha Wisconsin. At that time they were a premier builder of Funnies, Top Fuel and the customer list was a who's who of some of the best Shoes of the era. The first version of our car we ran a 421 Pontiac NASCAR motor with Donovan Heads, Hilborn Injected on race gas. The second version was a 392 hemi 6/71 Doug Dwyer blower on top of Hilborn injectors on alcohol. The wheel base was 103" with a independent front end (which was pretty rare) and a coil over rear which was pretty rare as well. The original intent was to go to fuel but in 73 the NHRA and other sanctioning bodies banned Nitro for the Altereds due to the high rates of death and injury, the insurance carriers didn't want any part of the Altereds. The car was a handful and I was all elbows in the cockpit and I don't recall ever making a straight pass. When we went to the blown and injected set up the first few runs were short bursts to get the feel and to test all the mechanicals and I thought this isn't so bad compared to the car on gas. WRONG!!! The first full pull I made I almost soiled myself (and I don't scare easy) but I kept my foot on the loud peddle through the traps. We never did get to run the car on fuel which was what the car was built for. I don't know if I would have had the stones to be successful as a great shoe but at the time I was willing to die trying.

I have been racing since the age of nine, Started in Karts in 1964 and rent a ride a few times a year in formula ford. I also run in the WKA vintage 250cc Super Kart Class. I bought two new ZIP Super Karts in 1986, one was setup with 125cc Rotax motor and one with a 250cc Rotax inline tandem motor, they were the same chassis just different motor mounts. Again I got caught out on rules with the 250cc class as they were deemed to be to dangerous, but they let us run them now with no restrictions go figure! I stashed the 250 in the storage above the shop and it sat for like 25 years, when I heard they were allowing the 250s back we restored it and I get silly every time I run it. 404 lbs wet with me in the seat. 90 hp on the dyno at 12,500 rpm. It will run 17,000 rpm all day long and I shift at 14,500 (six speed) At Road America we run 170 mph down into turn 5 with a ground clearance of 7/8". I have to admit the 250s are a handful, very nervous and twitchy so you have to pay attention in the seat.

Being around the and owning a 1:1 Altered the model kits are far from accurate as the cars were really one offs and changed on a weekly basis. Period correct cars of the 70s were typically 100" to 110" wheel bases with most being in the mid range of those dimensions. You could cut up a funny car kit but you would be doing alot of cutting and the roll cages would not be period correct! I would recommend a Altered kit and modify it to your taste as they are more accurate in the wheel base.

Good luck on the build! It's always great to hear from a Altered Fan! "Fuel Altereds Forever" Jimmy "RASS"

[W-409]

Niko, Interesting build and very nice as well!!! Call me ignorant I have never heard of a Simca Vedette. Nice touch with the rubber on the quarters

Thanks!

I had heard about Simca Vedette, but when I bought that body I had no idea what car it was. When I got home from the show I started to search from Google and found that it's a Simca.

[John Pol]

you can also drop maybe a Volkswagon body onit

[10thumbs]

Simca!

I had one when I was younger, and new to Europe. Small car, rear engine. From a distance, you couldn't tell if it was coming or going. Like a small shoebox. The hood, and the trunk lifted up, the dang car looked the same whichever direction you looked!

It was pretty quick though, for such a small car. Fun to drive as well. Amazing the room inside, with the front floorboard flat. I had lots of fun and good memories thinking about the Simca.

Michael

[jwrass]

Yes a bug without fenders in the front (or rear) could be very cool!!!!!

[Tom Geiger]

Just thought I'd post these two shots so you can see what the Miss Deal chassis looks like completed. It's not that detailed a set up, but a lot of guys use this chassis under a lot of different bodies. You may have to move some wheel wells on the bodies, but it will be cool! I used this one for the kit Studebaker body, but I have a few extras to play with!

[cobraman]

I used that chassis for this.

[High octane]

Andrew is right as the Miss Deal is not an altered or a gasser by no means. It is a "match racer" and a car like this ran on a lot of "outlaw tracks" back in the mid-late 60's. I'm currently working on one myself.

[10thumbs]

Hi guys, I realize Miss Deal is not an altered, I wanted to find out more or less what could be done to the thing. Which bodies have you guys put on it, and so forth.

The real altered model kits are scarce, and as far as I know only the AMT Winged Express/Bantam Blast kits offer a decent fuel altered platform. Hence, kitbashing time.

I reqlly had no idea what the chassis even looks like on the Miss Deal car. Tom Geiger, thanks for showing! Now I have an idea what's coming at me.

Ray, ditto. That's a hairy looking ride there.

Nick, are you going OOTB with yours?

Thanks for helping,

Michael

[High octane]

Michael, the Miss Deal kit that I'm currently working on is pretty much out of the box. I am adding some detailing to it as well as a custom candy paint job and custom decals made for me by a friend. I'm having difficulty posting pics on this forum lately, and yet no problems posting on other forums, so I really don't know if I'll be posting any pics of my Miss Deal.