Greg Myers Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 Thanks for "The Younger Builder" moniker. Except I'm 66 and haven't been much of a builder these last few years. Now here's the funny part , my first car was a 1931 Model A 4 door sedan.Lookin' alot like this. and in my garage right now, a 2 door Sport Coupe
Jon Haigwood Posted January 20, 2015 Author Posted January 20, 2015 My first car was a 31 Model A Roadster body and a z'd frame (no pics) my current car they called it a Sports Roof the first Pony Car
johnbuzzed Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 To me, a "sports sedan" would be a BMW, Audi, Infiniti, et al. Otherwise, a pillarless four-door = a "four door hardtop".
unclescott58 Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 To me, a "sports sedan" would be a BMW, Audi, Infiniti, et al. Otherwise, a pillarless four-door = a "four door hardtop". Okay then are we now all in basic agreement? And can we get back to the original subject, which is really 4-door hardtops? And models of the same? Scott
FASTBACK340 Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 WAIT!!! My Maxima was marketed as a 4 door sports car! In my rear quarter glass it said 4DSC....
Foxer Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 More confusion here you have a automobile referred to as a "Convertible, Hardtop and a Sedan" ehehhe I love it . "Permanent Roof Convertible" .. I thought only new millennium marketing people were allowed to say things like that.
lordairgtar Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 In American body style lingo, a four door without a B pillar is/was a hardtop, as was the two door non post model as well. Sometimes the two door was called a coupe if it had a post and window frame work. Now, it's a sedan, closely aligned to the way the world outside of the US does it. But I digress, I owned a 64 Buick LeSabre 4 door hardtop and a four door sedan. Both were equipped the same but the hardtop gave the illusion of a more spritely lighter car.
Greg Myers Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 WAIT!!! My Maxima was marketed as a 4 door sports car! In my rear quarter glass it said 4DSC.... YEP!
ChrisBcritter Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 '59 Olds 98 Holiday Sport Sedan (aka four-door hardtop)... The ultimate barn find! Only 6808 miles on it when this was taken. I know this car well; even sat inside it and shot video over 20 years ago (and got a shot of the owner accidentally peeling out!). Steven, there are lots of detail photos of it here if you want to do this color scheme: http://www.kingoftheroad.net/59olds/olds-1.html
Motor City Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) This is one of those grand old Johan Oldsmobiles that I came across, that I hope to be re-building in the not too distant future. Steve Steve, Why would you want to do it over? It looks like a rare, non-warped model. My grandparents had a '59 Super 88 2-door hardtop in two-tone green. He traded in a black '55 Special 2-door hardtop for it and then traded the S88 in for a '63 Wildcat 4-door hardtop. All three were cool cars. Edited January 21, 2015 by Motor City
StevenGuthmiller Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 The ultimate barn find! Only 6808 miles on it when this was taken. I know this car well; even sat inside it and shot video over 20 years ago (and got a shot of the owner accidentally peeling out!). Steven, there are lots of detail photos of it here if you want to do this color scheme: http://www.kingoftheroad.net/59olds/olds-1.html That is beautiful in black! But, the '59 Olds had such a unique two-tone treatment, I'd really like to do something along those lines. How about "Russet" & "Ebony Black"? Steve
Tom Geiger Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Just some stuff I have packed away... 1961 Chevy 4 door hardtop 1956 Buick 4 door hardtop '58 Caddy 4 door hardtop 1959 Olds like Steve's but mine is an awful mess! 1961 Olds 4 door hardtop, mild custom bought this way. Nicely done so I don't have the heart to touch it!
StevenGuthmiller Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Steve, Why would you want to do it over? It looks like a rare, non-warped model. My grandparents had a '59 Super 88 2-door hardtop in two-tone green. He traded in a black '55 Special 2-door hardtop for it and then traded the S88 in for a '63 Wildcat 4-door hardtop. All three were cool cars. It is a nice one Jim. But I'm a builder, not a collector. I don't buy them to save them as is. I've gotten my hands on several mint condition, in the box kits over the past few years, & as blasphemous as it may be to kit collectors, I built them. After all, that's what they're for. Steve
Tom Geiger Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 It is a nice one Jim. But I'm a builder, not a collector. I don't buy them to save them as is. I've gotten my hands on several mint condition, in the box kits over the past few years, & as blasphemous as it may be to kit collectors, I built them. After all, that's what they're for. Steve and it's fortunate that Steve is a good builder. He turns it into something better. It's only blasphemous when someone who builds like a fifth grader turns one into a glue bomb!
unclescott58 Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 I think it's a little blasphemous to change a mint promo. But kits? My plans are aways to build a kit, no matter how rare it is. They were designed to be built. Scott
Ron Hamilton Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) I made this out of a derelict convertible. I'm going to "freshen it up", with some new wheels, door handles, and an engine. I may dress this one up as a "LeBaron" That rear window treatment is just too cool. Edited January 22, 2015 by Ron Hamilton
StevenGuthmiller Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 I think it's a little blasphemous to change a mint promo. But kits? My plans are aways to build a kit, no matter how rare it is. They were designed to be built. Scott I agree Scott. Promos were made, more or less, to be a collectible. But, as you'll see on ebay, a mint condition rare promo might cost you upwards of $300.00. Not really a prime candidate for a re-build anyway. Steve
Ron Hamilton Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 I agree Scott. Promos were made, more or less, to be a collectible. But, as you'll see on ebay, a mint condition rare promo might cost you upwards of $300.00. Not really a prime candidate for a re-build anyway. Steve Ditto.
Tom Geiger Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 I agree Scott. Promos were made, more or less, to be a collectible. But, as you'll see on ebay, a mint condition rare promo might cost you upwards of $300.00. Not really a prime candidate for a re-build anyway. Steve Nothing wrong with building a model out of a broken promo. I cruise eBay for those, mainly for cars that weren't done as kits like the Rambler cars, 4 door sedans and wagons of the 1960s. All three of these Ramblers are damaged and bought right. Promo collectors don't want 'restored' cars, so they are prime candidates for modeling. None of these were ever available as kits.
StevenGuthmiller Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 I agree Tom. That's why I was talking about the "mint condition" ones. A busted up promo is destined for the trash bin anyway, so why not restore them. Steve
unclescott58 Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 I agree with Tom too. As noted by Steve, we were talking about "mint" promos. Not broken or damaged ones. At the same time, I don't always look at early "warped" promos as damaged promos. I have a beautiful 1960 Ford Galaxie Fordor Town Victoria (a 4-door hardtop) promo that looks like it's been a bit "t-boned" in an accident. This is common on these early promos. Scott
StevenGuthmiller Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 I agree with Tom too. As noted by Steve, we were talking about "mint" promos. Not broken or damaged ones. At the same time, I don't always look at early "warped" promos as damaged promos. I have a beautiful 1960 Ford Galaxie Fordor Town Victoria (a 4-door hardtop) promo that looks like it's been a bit "t-boned" in an accident. This is common on these early promos. Scott That's the main reason I usually stay away from promos. Plus the fact that I have little experience with the funky plastic they were made from. Steve
Jon Haigwood Posted January 22, 2015 Author Posted January 22, 2015 I thought Promo's were originally made as salesmen's samples and for Dad to bring home for the kids to play with when I bought a new car. Folk's like us turned them into Collectables. When I was young they were toys, most likely the reason on why so many are damaged.
disabled modeler Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Those wagons are cool Tom....I restore promos if at all possible...otherwise they will become models so they will have another chance to be something and not a waste....I like them too much.
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