Revell 1984 Olds 442

[Harry P.]

I think they'd rather put the Donk era behind them

I think we'd all like to put the Donk era behind us.

[DaveM]

I'm surprised they took it that far and abandoned it. I wonder what it would take to tool up a suspension and motor for it, and clean up the engine bay a bit. Hopefully, someday they will try to finish it up.

[Luc Janssens]

Saw that diecast with my own eyes, many moons ago, and believe me, you don't want that as a plastic kit, unless your hobby is bashing Revell.

I also have seen comments like, why don't they retool, well...maybe it's much more cost effective, to start from scrach, or by baseing it on older Monogram tools (Monte Carlo/Buick GNX)

Anyway, we don't know if the boys in Elk Grove are working on one, could be, could be not, sometimes what is concidred hot today, will tank big time tomorrow, (one of the reasons it's a bad idea, to leak info and certainly in the data gathering stage)

Remember that Monogram Dodge Diplomat police car, it was canceled in a pre-tooling stage....

Edited September 13, 2014 by Luc Janssens

[w451973]

For whatever reasons Revell "may" or "my not" have they are only cheating themselves out of $$$$ by not producing this kit. And no I'm not talking about a donk or diecast. If it was such a big deal for the Cutlass owner not to talk then they should have had him sign a confidentiality contract like all major companies do.

[Luc Janssens]

If it was such a big deal for the Cutlass owner not to talk then they should have had him sign a confidentiality contract like all major companies do.

Don't think it's a big deal, just stupid on his part, cuz he doesn't know what the company short list is and the ranking of his car, which can go up, or down depending on what sells on the hobby market.

When something is in tooling, then one can be fairly sure, you can have a copy of it within a year or so...

I'm hoping to see a '80s Cutlass kit and guess like most of us here, will find out, when it's on some quarterly flyer.

'till then I've got plenty to build already ;^)

[Casey]

The biggest "problem" that the G-Body tooling has right now is that the guy who owned the vehicle that Revell supposedly measured three years ago came onto this forum, Facebook, and everywhere else that he could and proclaimed that Ed Sexton called him and told him they cut the tooling for the kit. This was right around the time that Casey found the diagram showing the Cutlass appeared to based on the patterns of the existing Monte Carlo & Regal in the engineering & assembly sense.

My opinion is that it will be 1/25, all-new, and not based on the existing 1/24 Monogram Buick GN/GNX and/or '86 Monte SS tooling in any way. Based on what I've read posted on the G-body forums (yes, strictly hearsay), Angelo Valenti is the go-to expert on G-body Cutlasses of this vintage, and he owns the Olds FE3-X concept car ( http://www.oldsfe3x.com/ ), so I feel comfortable taking his comments (and even some second hand comments) regarding a future 1/25 Olds G-body kit from Revell at face value.

Here's some more second hand info about the kit from the G-body Cutlass forum for those interested: http://www.gbodyolds.com/forum/showthread.php?705-The-Gbody-Culass-Model-is-Finally-Here!!!/page2

Just because a potential kit is researched, photographs and are measurements taken, and maybe even a leak/announcement is made, there is no such thing as a guarantee until the kit hits store shelves, if it ever does. The Revell '50 Olds took what, a decade from initial development to being produced, and I don't think it's crazy to think there are other kits like it. Sometimes the story and path to a kit's creation is just as interesting as the kit itself, so there needn't always be a pot at the end of the rainbow. Sometimes the rainbow itself is what's worth enjoying.

Here's the exploded view diagram James mentioned, which was found on a different G-body forum IIRC. I think I've lost the original link to the source:

My opinion/prediction with no inside knowledge is we'll see this kit in 2015. I think it'd be a great seller in 1/25 scale.

[Luc Janssens]

My opinion is that it will be 1/25, all-new, and not based on the existing 1/24 Monogram Buick GN/GNX and/or '86 Monte SS tooling in any way. Based on what I've read posted on the G-body forums (yes, strictly hearsay), Angelo Valenti is the go-to expert on G-body Cutlasses of this vintage, and he owns the Olds FE3-X concept car ( http://www.oldsfe3x.com/ ), so I feel comfortable taking his comments (and even some second hand comments) regarding a future 1/25 Olds G-body kit from Revell at face value.

Here's some more second hand info about the kit from the G-body Cutlass forum for those interested: http://www.gbodyolds.com/forum/showthread.php?705-The-Gbody-Culass-Model-is-Finally-Here!!!/page2

Just because a potential kit is researched, photographs and are measurements taken, and maybe even a leak/announcement is made, there is no such thing as a guarantee until the kit hits store shelves, if it ever does. The Revell '50 Olds took what, a decade from initial development to being produced, and I don't think it's crazy to think there are other kits like it. Sometimes the story and path to a kit's creation is just as interesting as the kit itself, so there needn't always be a pot at the end of the rainbow. Sometimes the rainbow itself is what's worth enjoying.

Here's the exploded view diagram James mentioned, which was found on a different G-body forum IIRC. I think I've lost the original link to the source:

My opinion/prediction with no inside knowledge is we'll see this kit in 2015. I think it'd be a great seller in 1/25 scale.

Could it be that that exploded view is from the old Monogram days, I see that the tires are named by brand and there are no chrome headlight buckets, something not seen from Monogram since the '83 Mustang IIRC

[Fabrux]

Also, the resemblance of the parts in this exploded view to those in the Monogram 1:24 kits is uncanny.... If it IS 1:25 scale lets hope it is not a simple scaling down like the 69/70 Mustangs.

[Casey]

Could it be that that exploded view is from the old Monogram days

I've never seen an exploded view diagram like this before, but it definitely shares the same layout as the previous 1/24 G-bodies. While the listed 1/25 scale only adds to the confusion, we have no idea what the above exploded view diagram was used for nor when, so I'm content to just wait and see what happens.

[niteowl7710]

My opinion is that it will be 1/25, all-new, and not based on the existing 1/24 Monogram Buick GN/GNX and/or '86 Monte SS tooling in any way. Based on what I've read posted on the G-body forums (yes, strictly hearsay), Angelo Valenti is the go-to expert on G-body Cutlasses of this vintage, and he owns the Olds FE3-X concept car ( http://www.oldsfe3x.com/ ), so I feel comfortable taking his comments (and even some second hand comments) regarding a future 1/25 Olds G-body kit from Revell at face value.

I have no reason whatsoever to believe Angelo is telling anything but the truth, it was his telling a little TOO much of the truth too SOON that caused the "problems" with this one, in so much as it seems like he's been promptly cut out of the development loop after he posted on every piece of electronic social media he could find that Ed called him and told him they were cutting the tooling for the first kit right after New Years.

[blubaja]

So someone is a part of a new kit development. Gets excited and posts about it. Get everyone else excited about it. Revell finds out and stalls the project. Sounds like Revell's geniuses at work once again.

[mikemodeler]

It could also be that despite some enthusiasm for the kit, the pre-orders were not there so Revell did not take a chance on running these at the time. If the reported dimensions and crudeness of the kit are to be believed, then maybe Revell did us all a favor in not releasing this kit yet.

We will probably know by the end of October as to what Revell will do in 2015.

[jbwelda]

it could also be that bringing it up here again with details and super secret exploded diagrams (no diagrams were harmed in the explosions) will get more people excluded from the coveted "insider" brigade.

could be...

jb

[blubaja]

it could also be that bringing it up here again with details and super secret exploded diagrams (no diagrams were harmed in the explosions) will get more people excluded from the coveted "insider" brigade.

could be...

jb

LOL:)

Why do they have to hide anything? Are they worried they might receive any kind of criticism? Or even help with the tooling? Godforbid they try to get something right for once!

[Bob Ellis]

They say that those that are talking, don't know, and those that know, aren't talking. I don't expect any good inside information.

Having said that, I think there is a possibility that some dealers don't want to peddle them. I would like to build one, but I wonder if this kit would sell well.

[niteowl7710]

Guys you're missing the point. First of all despite being patterned after (allegedly) the 1/24 Monte Carlo/GN(X) it was going to be 1/25 scale. Secondly it has NOTHING to do with the DONK shown a decade ago, that kit didn't even have an engine and was based on a diecast that also never saw the light of day.

Lastly Angelo never said "Ed Sexton called and told me the starting cutting the tooling on the Cutlass, and it'll be out in July". He just said Ed said they started cutting tooling. It seems to take Revell about 18 months from when they start cutting steel for a project to when it comes to market, which gives this thing another good 6-8 months before it would even be behind schedule. Now with the new marketing "regime" in Elk Grove (a technique I happen to like BTW), we're only being fed release information one QUARTER at a time. We might not hear about this kit until next Summer since there's no big blanket "Here's what we're doing for the entire year" release package like there was in prior years. As I've said before this new system is a delicious irony to me because after many moons of people complaining that Revell would announce kits in October of one year, and then not release them until November/December of the following year, now they tell you exactly what to expect in digestible 90 days chunks and people are going apoplectic that some kit that someone hinted about coming out in the future is now dead because it hasn't been on the past 4 quarters worth of announcements.

Edited September 24, 2014 by niteowl7710

[kalbert]

They say that those that are talking, don't know, and those that know, aren't talking. I don't expect any good inside information.

I'm with you there! The people who know, know. The rest of us, no matter how "inside" can only speculate.

Edited September 24, 2014 by kalbert

[Tonioseven]

I would like to have at least three kits. I'm certain that SOMEONE at Revell is reading the comments across all of these forums. It would be really nice to have a kit of this car but I'm not going to hold my breath.

[dig]

Maybe they can do a Foose edition too.

[Tonioseven]

If they do a 3-n-1 kit, they'd make their money back. People could trade the parts they don't want to other people and we could all sing Kumbaya as we post up our Cutlasses. Stock, drag, and custom (Foose as Dig stated). The custom version could be a lowrider or whatever. Creativity would be the key. People still feel they have to build a model just like it appears on the box. Be different. Use your imagination.

[1972coronet]

C'mon , Revell ! Do it to it with an '83 - '87 Cutlass (3-in-1) !!

[Toner283]

Maybe if they bring this Cutlass kit to life then the modeling community may also finally see a G body Malibu in kit form. it would not be very difficult to tool up a Malibu to fit on the chassis and ancilliaries from the Cutlass kit. All G bodies shared the same basic frame and chassis components. Not to rain on the Cutlass parade but I would rather see a Malibu done in kit form in 1/25. As the owner of 4 full size Malibu's I would be in for a case of kits. In my opinion the Malibu's are a better looking car than the Cutlasses but I am biased. At least if the Cutlass comes to life in 1/25th then maybe someone will tool up a new Malibu body and related parts in resin to go with the Cutlass kit.

Here's hoping.

[kalbert]

In reality, G bodies and A bodies shared quite a bit, but in models at most they'd share a chassis. Even to do different G bodies you'd need totally different body tools, interiors, motors, trim parts, wheels, etc. There's not as much in common on the kits as there is on the real deals. We're not talking Chevy/GMC pickups that are the same save for a different grille and tailgate emblem. The G's each had a style all their own.

[W-409]

Maybe if they bring this Cutlass kit to life then the modeling community may also finally see a G body Malibu in kit form. it would not be very difficult to tool up a Malibu to fit on the chassis and ancilliaries from the Cutlass kit. All G bodies shared the same basic frame and chassis components. Not to rain on the Cutlass parade but I would rather see a Malibu done in kit form in 1/25. As the owner of 4 full size Malibu's I would be in for a case of kits. In my opinion the Malibu's are a better looking car than the Cutlasses but I am biased. At least if the Cutlass comes to life in 1/25th then maybe someone will tool up a new Malibu body and related parts in resin to go with the Cutlass kit.

Here's hoping.

Really, I've been wondering why hasn't anyone tooled up a G-Boby Malibu. I guess they would sell really well, as they are quite popular in the 1:1 world. Especially they are very popular Drag Cars, but there are also lots of street car Malibus. Personally I'd guess they'd sell well and I really hope to see a kit of '78-'81 Malibu (With the single headlights, they just look million times better than the double headlights). I know I'd buy at least three of them to build different versions.

The Cutlass would be another cool one. Hopefully we'll see a kit of one in the future.

[1972coronet]

I was under the impression that the A-body ( Malibu / Chevelle , Cutlass , Skylark , LeMans / GTO , 1964-1977 ) and the G-body ( Grand Prix and Monte Carlo , 1969-1972 ) were *combined* into the A/G body from 1978 - 1982 , which became only A-body from 1983-1987 ?

Never heard of the Malibu being adorned to the G-body platform .