bh1701 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I will be using Tamiya's TS-54 Light Blue Metallic on an upcoming kit. I usually use Tamiya's white or gray primer on my kits. Is this what I should use, or is there something different I should do with a metallic paint? Thanks, Bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotnitro? Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Anything will work, both of your primers mentioned will be fine . I spray mica red over white or gray , it takes a few passes to build a rich color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodent Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I hate to say "do a spoon test", but do a spoon test. The grey primer will probably darken the blue a bit. But as Jeff says, either one will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransAmMike Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just wondering here. When rattle can spraying a pearl color, say a red in this case, does it really make a difference if the undercoat is a primer or say a gold metallic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I would recommend spraying the TS-54 over gray primer rather than white. For whatever reason, blue paints seem to want to wick away around panel lines when sprayed over white primer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Just wondering here. When rattle can spraying a pearl color, say a red in this case, does it really make a difference if the undercoat is a primer or say a gold metallic? Sure it does- pearls and metallics are semi-transparent color coats, so the base coat (be it red, grey, white primer, or a metallic undercoat) will alter the final hue, unless you spray several color coats...enough to hide the undercoat. You'll probably find a gold undercoat will make the pearl red look richer, a silver undercoat will make the pearl red look a touch cooler. Spoon tests will show you the effects of undercoats and their final effect when spraying the same amount of pearl or metallic over top. Edited October 21, 2020 by gman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, TransAmMike said: Just wondering here. When rattle can spraying a pearl color, say a red in this case, does it really make a difference if the undercoat is a primer or say a gold metallic? It does make a difference in my experience. I prefer to spray pearl or mica reds over a silver or gold base. Gold seems to give a little darker, richer color. These photos illustrate the difference between a silver and a gold base coat. The Edsel wagon is over Mica Silver. The Ranchero is over gold. Both are painted with Tamiya Mica Red. Edited October 21, 2020 by Plowboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espo Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 During your spoon testing, you are doing that aren't you ? See if a high metallic silver might not be a consideration for a base coat since you're doing a metallic color anyway. May be that depending on how many coats of the color coat you use this may make no difference at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransAmMike Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I sprayed Duplicolor Mica Ford Toreador Red over a medium gray primer and it's pretty dark. I should hve did the gold undercoat but its done now. I'll know better next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 13 hours ago, Plowboy said: I would recommend spraying the TS-54 over gray primer rather than white. For whatever reason, blue paints seem to want to wick away around panel lines when sprayed over white primer. That is so true, Roger.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSheep214 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 11:27 AM, Plowboy said: It does make a difference in my experience. I prefer to spray pearl or mica reds over a silver or gold base. Gold seems to give a little darker, richer color. These photos illustrate the difference between a silver and a gold base coat. The Edsel wagon is over Mica Silver. The Ranchero is over gold. Both are painted with Tamiya Mica Red. Those are fantastic! I definitely see the difference! I don't mean to stray away from the OP's original question but I do have one question. What would you suggest for a base coat for Candy Apple Red? I know there are a few candy colors out there - and red being the most common one. My thinking silver or gold base coat would work just as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, BlackSheep214 said: Those are fantastic! I definitely see the difference! I don't mean to stray away from the OP's original question but I do have one question. What would you suggest for a base coat for Candy Apple Red? I know there are a few candy colors out there - and red being the most common one. My thinking silver or gold base coat would work just as well? Thanx! I would use gold under Candy Apple Red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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