TransAmMike Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 As anyone on here that has bought these tires from Joseph at Fireballmodelworks knows, the red line (or white stripe) has to be painted on. Josephs instructions say for the red line, paint the groove with white acrylic then after drying red over that. My question is how in the world do you get the paint in the tiny groove without getting it on the sidewall? Or does it matter, considering any paint on the sidewall likely could be wiped off. Just wondering if anyone has worked on these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 You should be able to do it just as you described Mike. I've painted the blue line on the Good Year Blue Streak Sports Car Special tires and did it that exact way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacho Z Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) I hope this works, Mike. On my Chaparral build I tried the gold ring decals that came with the kit. Epic fail. The tires had a small groove in them. I thinned some gold paint and kinda loaded the paintbrush. I put the tip of the paintbrush in the groove and capillary action did the rest. Really, it was just like a panel liner. The few spots where I touched the brush to the tire were easily cleaned up once the paint in the groove dried. Edited August 31, 2022 by Nacho Z Removed duplicate photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 You can just wipe off any excess outside of the groove with a little mineral spirits on a swab. It works very well. These are the Fireball red lines done exactly as Joseph describes using Mr. Hobby acrylics. Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 1017 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I thin down the acrylic paint down to the point that it just runs around (can't think of that word) that grove. Sort of like using a panel line wash. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransAmMike Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 13 hours ago, Nacho Z said: I hope this works, Mike. On my Chaparral build I tried the gold ring decals that came with the kit. Epic fail. The tires had a small groove in them. I thinned some gold paint and kinda loaded the paintbrush. I put the tip of the paintbrush in the groove and capillary action did the rest. Really, it was just like a panel liner. The few spots where I touched the brush to the tire were easily cleaned up once the paint in the groove dried. Thanks John...Joseph says to use acrylic, looks like you used enamel. They did come out great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransAmMike Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 51 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said: You can just wipe off any excess outside of the groove with a little mineral spirits on a swab. It works very well. These are the Fireball red lines done exactly as Joseph describes using Mr. Hobby acrylics. Steve Thanks Steven, they do look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransAmMike Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 13 hours ago, Plowboy said: You should be able to do it just as you described Mike. I've painted the blue line on the Good Year Blue Streak Sports Car Special tires and did it that exact way. Thanks Roger, good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, TransAmMike said: Thanks John...Joseph says to use acrylic, looks like you used enamel. They did come out great! Be careful using enamel. I can’t say what the results will be on these resin tires, but I have kit tires that I painted white walls on 20 years ago that still haven’t dried properly. Some kind of weird reaction between the enamel and the tire. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransAmMike Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said: Be careful using enamel. I can’t say what the results will be on these resin tires, but I have kit tires that I painted white walls on 20 years ago that still haven’t dried properly. Some kind of weird reaction between the enamel and the tire. Steve Thanks Steve, oh yeah, definately acrylic, maybe my Createx opaque red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 1017 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Mike 1017 said: I thin down the acrylic paint down to the point that it just runs around (can't think of that word) that grove. Sort of like using a panel line wash. Mike Capillary action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransAmMike Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 Hmmm. first 2 attempts = total failure🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransAmMike Posted September 1, 2022 Author Share Posted September 1, 2022 23 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said: Be careful using enamel. I can’t say what the results will be on these resin tires, but I have kit tires that I painted white walls on 20 years ago that still haven’t dried properly. Some kind of weird reaction between the enamel and the tire. Steve As I have said, my first few attempts at get the paint into the grooves failed. Would you mind letting me know which of the Mr. Hobby paints you used? Thanks Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 38 minutes ago, TransAmMike said: As I have said, my first few attempts at get the paint into the grooves failed. Would you mind letting me know which of the Mr. Hobby paints you used? Thanks Steven These are the one's that I used, but I don't think the brand of paint should matter much, as long as it's a good acrylic paint. The technique is much more important than the brand of paint. I didn't thin it, I just used a small brush and flowed the paint into the groove as well as possible, let it dry for a short time, and then went around the edges of the groove lightly with a Tamiya swab dipped in mineral spirits. I put a coat of white on each tire, then went back and cleaned each one between each coat. I used 2 coats of white, followed by 2 coats of red. It worked very well for me. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransAmMike Posted September 1, 2022 Author Share Posted September 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said: These are the one's that I used, but I don't think the brand of paint should matter much, as long as it's a good acrylic paint. The technique is much more important than the brand of paint. I didn't thin it, I just used a small brush and flowed the paint into the groove as well as possible, let it dry for a short time, and then went around the edges of the groove lightly with a Tamiya swab dipped in mineral spirits. I put a coat of white on each tire, then went back and cleaned each one between each coat. I used 2 coats of white, followed by 2 coats of red. It worked very well for me. Thanks so much Steve. Huh, I very seldom use white paint so all I have on hand is the small enamel Testors bottle. I do have some of those swabs. As some have said they thin the paint. I'm gonna give it another try as a test with some very pale gray craft paint I have. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 8/31/2022 at 7:52 AM, StevenGuthmiller said: You can just wipe off any excess outside of the groove with a little mineral spirits on a swab. It works very well. These are the Fireball red lines done exactly as Joseph describes using Mr. Hobby acrylics. Steve Wow! What a great build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopar maniac 74 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 I always used an old semi truck rim that I dipped the paint onto then pressed onto the tire. The size was perfect. If I did get any excess a toothpick will clean up the line. The good thing is using acrylic if you don't like it wipe with water dry and go again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyW Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 The whitewalls on this MPC Corvette were done by thinning Tamiya white acrylic with Tamiya thinner, about 50/50. The mixed color needs to be like water. Using a small, pointed brush I touched the tip against the groove in the tire. The thinned paint runs around the groove like a slot racer. Let it dry, then do it again until you are happy with the look. Two coats got the Corvette done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, TransAmMike said: The only reason for the white paint is to make the red brighter. My guess is that if you have a hood opaque red acrylic, the white might not be necessary. An extra coat of red might do just fine. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, stavanzer said: Wow! What a great build! Thank you Alan. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 By the way, the Mr. Hobby paints pictured above were relatively thin, so the “capillary” action mentioned above does apply, just not necessarily all of the way around the tire in one shot. I didn’t thin the paint because I didn’t want to adversely affect the coverage, but I’m sure that thinning slightly might help with that. I just prefer to use paint directly from the jar if possible. Less messing around. 😉 Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransAmMike Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 No pics yet, but I finally got the hang of it. Thinned red craft paint probably 60/40 water to paint. Used 20/0 fine brush and basically did the capillary method, wetting the brush pretty good, touch in the groove and kind of drag the paint around. Still wanna get a few more coats on (already likely 8 to 10 coats to get it red enough) . Did not use white base, just the red in the groove. Again thanks for all the advise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippi Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 2 hours ago, TransAmMike said: No pics yet, but I finally got the hang of it. Thinned red craft paint probably 60/40 water to paint. Used 20/0 fine brush and basically did the capillary method, wetting the brush pretty good, touch in the groove and kind of drag the paint around. Still wanna get a few more coats on (already likely 8 to 10 coats to get it red enough) . Did not use white base, just the red in the groove. Again thanks for all the advise. I knew you would get it Buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalform Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) Glad it’s working out for you. These were painted Vallejo white first, and followed by Vallejo red. Since they are water based, a Tamiya pointed swab with a bit of water wipes any excess off. It definitely helps to thin the paint a bit, so it will flow into the grooves easier. Edited September 3, 2022 by Brutalform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantrix Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Acrylic gel pens maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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