Scale-Master Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Based on the 1st Generation Camaro platform, this is a styling exercise using what became the roof and rear end of the 2nd Generation Camaro. The rear panel & roof/trunk is from an AMT ’70 Camaro, the main body is the Revell ‘69. The rear window frame was rescribed and sanded flush. The rear door lines were filled and new ones were scribed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z28 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Mark- Hopefully you'll continue with this build and it'll morph into a Z28! Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff ewaskey Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Wow really cool idea!!!!! Saw something similar as a rendering in a Camaro mag a few months back. If i can find it I will post up some pics for ya. Should also check out 2010 Goodguys street machine of the year as it is a 67 morphed with a new Camaro. May gain some inspiration there as well. Can't wait to see more progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Man,that looks nice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scale-Master Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Thanks guys! Your observations are duly noted, but I planned this out as far as what the styling parameters were to be well before laying saw to plastic. It can’t make use of the 1975 and later wrap around rear window because it did not exist in 1969. It can’t have an L88 hood because it needs to follow mainstream production 1969 Camaro cues for the front of the car. I am not trying to make a street custom, just toying with a what-if premise based on some fact, some (more) imagination… I already had written this perspective of the project before: With the late arrival of the 1970 (and ½) Camaro to the dealers, I wondered if possibly there was a chance of a dialogue of using a “filler†design utilizing the existing 1969 Camaro base. One with enough of a visual change, by using part of the new second generation body to create a transitional and producible design, but still be relatively structurally and mechanically the same car as the previous year. A design that could be further modified into an all new car for the following year(s)? Anyone recall the 1961 & ’62 Corvettes, and how the rear end of the subsequent mid-year Corvettes from 1963-’67 shared that new rear end styling attached to the previous 1958-'60 body? The last year for the solid axle was 1962, and the 1963 Corvette was an all new car... Is it not plausible that Chevrolet could have tried a past method of producing an interim car? Many concept cars do not see the light of day. Who’s to say there is not something like this buried in the archives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff ewaskey Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Very interesting perspective behind your build. Quite familiar with the Corvette idea you mention as I have been a Vette junkie for a long time. Bring on the updates bro as I am anxious to see your idea take shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Some of you guys come up with the best ideas, this will be terrific!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Oooo, I'm liking this! Great idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 So, Mark. Which resin caster will be offering this beautiful creation of yours for sale to us, the unwashed masses? Exceptionally smooth blend of both body styles! I love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scale-Master Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Again, Thanks guys! I do have someone who is willing to cast it in resin... But since it only uses easy to find two common kits, (any AMT 1970 Camaro, and any Revell 1969 Camaro), and one of them is needed for the engine/chassis/interior anyway, (the Revell '69). Plus it only took a few hours to cut and combine them to the state it is in those pictures. It makes more sense to show how I did it and let anyone who wants to build their own instead of sending it out, waiting for it to come back, and investing all that time and material in casting them. We are builders aren't we? This shows where I cut and combined the bodies. I used CA to cement them together and did not even need any body filler. A PE saw, X-Acto knife and a scriber were used to cut the bodies apart and rescribe the rear window and door lines. The rest is basic building techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc @ MPC Motorsports Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Mark, based on that tan plastic I'm assuming you used one of the 1989ish AMT Z28 with the mis-shapen Rally Sport nose? Very cool build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Again, Thanks guys! I do have someone who is willing to cast it in resin... But since it only uses easy to find two common kits, (any AMT 1970 Camaro, and any Revell 1969 Camaro), and one of them is needed for the engine/chassis/interior anyway, (the Revell '69). Plus it only took a few hours to cut and combine them to the state it is in those pictures. It makes more sense to show how I did it and let anyone who wants to build their own instead of sending it out, waiting for it to come back, and investing all that time and material in casting them. We are builders aren't we? This shows where I cut and combined the bodies. I used CA to cement them together and did not even need any body filler. A PE saw, X-Acto knife and a scriber were used to cut the bodies apart and rescribe the rear window and door lines. The rest is basic building techniques. Sure, make us do our own work!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scale-Master Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Mark, based on that tan plastic I'm assuming you used one of the 1989ish AMT Z28 with the mis-shapen Rally Sport nose? Very cool build! Yep. Guilt free way to go in my book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesar Bossolani Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Will looks awesome when it finished!!! Subscribed! Cesar Bossolani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sak Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Is there going to be rear sideglass? Theres no way a window of that shape would be able to roll in the door. But beside that this is badass !!! The thing I always did not like about those 70 camaros was the front end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scale-Master Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Thanks!. No quarter windows, like a second gen. And I have reshaped the door and fitted the door windows before establishing that door line. With the proper regulator,the window could roll up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemodeler Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Mark, I am digging this and I really appreciate the how-to to do it ourselves. While buying a resin piece could be easier, the way you showed how you mated the two kits together really makes this look like a simple project. I have two ideas in my head for this prototype- a COPO version and a ProTouring version. I think the COPO would use the standard grille and the ProTouring would use the RS grille with the hideaway headlamps. I really prefer the hideaway headlamps from the 67/68 Camaros over the 69 but keeping with the theme, I guess the 69 grille would be the one to use. Can't wait to see some progress on this, you got it done yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantrix Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 This reminds me of one of the aussie Falcons, where it sort of looks like a Torino in the rear and a Mustang from the front. Really neat idea. Good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modlbldr Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Mark- I understand the story behind the build and I like to do the same thing at times. I like the look of this with one exception. The disparity between the front and rear fender peaks bugs me. The front fenders come to a nice sharp peak where as the rear fenders are rounded at the top. This is, to me, what adds to the weighty look of the rear. Unfortunately with the story involved there is no way to fix this without losing what each body style is (or was in it's day). All of that aside, I really like what you have done and I appreciate your work involved. I can't wait to see this in color. Later- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Mark- I understand the story behind the build and I like to do the same thing at times. I like the look of this with one exception. The disparity between the front and rear fender peaks bugs me. The front fenders come to a nice sharp peak where as the rear fenders are rounded at the top. This is, to me, what adds to the weighty look of the rear. Unfortunately with the story involved there is no way to fix this without losing what each body style is (or was in it's day). All of that aside, I really like what you have done and I appreciate your work involved. I can't wait to see this in color. Later- I agree with Modlbldr. I think that it might flow a little better with the ridges, or character lines, from the '69 rear quarter panels. With that being said, I love it! What a great concept! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scale-Master Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 The rear bumper was too narrow, I don’t know if it is a problem with the AMT ’70 Camaro or something I did during the body modification since I did not test fit it until the body was re-worked, but it needed about 1/8th of an inch added. BMF to re-plate it… The rear corners of the body also had to be tweaked and built up to meet the bumper, the corners were a bit “softâ€. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAone Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 nice concept. BMF for the re-chrome looks great. i dont see any flaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony T Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Looks like a great concept! Can't wait to see more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharr7226 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 The bmf application looks great. How the heck did you wrap it around those curves with no wrinkles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scale-Master Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 BMF stretches, just start in the center and "massage" it outward. If you see a wrinkle stating to form, lift the loose part of the foil and continue smoothing outward. The wheels from the AMT kit were the 2nd gen z/28 style I wanted to use, but needed some modifications to be used with the Revell tires, and they were not 100% correct, so thinned them out on the lathe… And machined a set of beauty rings… I was able to reuse the center caps after I cut some discs from aluminum to close off the open center portions of the wheels. And some hex rod was sliced up for the lug nuts… Dark gunmetal with some silver accents and they are ready to install… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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