Well, Friday I got the word that effective that day I was laid off. This is the fourth time since 2001, all due to the economy. Won't be going to the NNL East, gonna be raiding the parts box instead of buying new stuff. Erie, PA's a tough place to find a new job, unemployment is already high. I'll be looking for anything between Buffalo, NY, Cleveland, OH, and Pittsburg. I have been a foundry tooling engineer for years, have a lot of experience with several 3D, 2D, and simulation systems, and can figure out how to build a virtual master or mold for just about anything. Thanks for listening, Thanks, Gregg, for the free forum.