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Great build Ken, I love to see your work.

Very nice work so far.

Those instructions are for the new tool 56 Chevy wich came out in the early 2000's, the instructions he asks for is for the old tool kit from the 60's wich is a different kit all together. I have browsed all Revell albums at the Drastic Plastic Instructions folder as they usually have instructions for most kits, but they don't have anything for the old tool 56 Chevy, I found instructions for the old tool 55 and 57 and the new tool 56 kits. I have a set from the old tool 56 Chevy and I scanned them for you, they are not exactly from the kit you have but they have to be quite close as they are from the same tooling .

I bought a model kit from Dennis (Model Express) once several years ago...he sent the kit over here no problem at all.

Well I had saved all this information in my files for my own use and I thought it would be useful for everybody...so that's my main reason for doing it. But I can't take credit for everything because I haven't done all the legwork myself, I have found the information here and there on the web (including here on this forum) and I just put it together in a list so it would be easy to use.

Yes it's a nice one.

Nice indeed.

Yes of course. Allis Chalmers Plum Crazy Purple Caterpillar 1145 - Cat Yellow 1150 - Cat Yellow 1160 - Cat Yellow 1673 - Cat Yellow 1674 - Cat Yellow 1676 - Cat Yellow 1693 - Cat Yellow 3208 - Cat Yellow 3306 - Cat Yellow 3406 - New Cat Yellow 3408 - New Cat Yellow 3412 - New Cat Yellow C5 - C19 - New Cat Yellow with Black valve covers I have found out that Caterpillar changed the color from Old Caterpillar Yellow, also known as Hi-Way Yellow, to New Cat Yellow on their machines in June 1979 and that could be the case with the engines too. So if that's correct the engines would be Cat Hi-Way Yellow from January 1932 until June 1979, after June 1979 New Cat Yellow...except for the cases when the truck manufacturers had their own colors as listed below. The old Cat Hi-Way Yellow were a brighter shade yellow than the New Cat Yellow wich is more to the mustard shade. Cummins H/NH and HS/NHS/NHRS ("Iron Lung") series 672 and 743 cui 50's and early 60's - Cummins Gold close to old Cat yellow NHC250 - Cummins Beige NTA370 - Cummins Beige NTC350 - Cummins Beige NTC400 - Cummins Beige NTC475 - Cummins Beige N14 - Black (cast aluminum valve covers are red and stamped sheet metal valve covers are black) V-903 - Dark grey or Black Signature 600/ISX CM570 - Red (may have chrome or black valve covers) X15-Red Detroit Diesel Series 60 - DD Alpine Green or BlueGreen 6-71 - DD Alpine Green 8V71 - DD Alpine Green 12V71 - DD Alpine Green or Silver (usually turbocharged models) 16V71 - DD Alpine Green 8V92 - DD Alpine Green or Silver (usually turbocharged models) Chevrolet 1940s to late 1950s - Medium grey Late 1950s to 1963 I-6 engines Chevrolet engine blue, V-8 Chevrolet engine red (orange) Ford Ford 331 Flathead truck engine - Dark Spruce Green OHV 1954 to 1961 - Red 534SD - Ford Blue GMC GMC 1940s - Avacado GMC late 1940s to early 1950s Dark Green GMC 1950s Crimson Red GMC 1960s V-6 Alpine Green, V-8 Red Turbine - Red International V-800 - Metallic blue Maxx Force - Dark Blue and Silver Mack - Pre 1990 gold, Post 1990 grey, or blue / grey if equipped with an intercooler ENDT675 ENDT676 ENDT865 4cyl (Mack AC) - medium grey Super tip turbine - red The Maxidyne engine colour was gold, the Maxiydyne truck could easily be identified by the gold dog on the hood. The Thermodyne, Econodyne motors were all painted GREY, these had a chrome dog fitted. If any other brand of motor was fitted, Cummins,Cat, GM-Detroit, then it would have a chrome dog fitted as well. Exceptions, some truck manufacturer's use their own colors instead of the engine builders color AutoCar - White through 1968-69 then manufacturer color Ford - Black until 1965, Ford Blue until 1982, Ford Corporate Grey Diamond Reo - Red International - Red "International paid Cummins, Detroit and Cat about $25 per engine to have them all painted IH 2150 Red for many years. The practice ended in the '70's, as I remember, and we (International, my employer) pocketed the 25 bucks. Concerning the blue International V-800 in the Paystar, marketing decided that International's new big bore engines should be blue to distinguish them from the competition" Peterbilt - White through 1984 then engine manufacturer color (there are exceptions as white engines can be found in trucks after 1984 and manufactures colors in trucks before 1984) Caterpillar was the last engine manufacturer to stop painting them white. Kenworth - White through 1975 then engine manufacturer color (there are exceptions as white engines can be found in trucks after 1975 and manufacturers colors in trucks before 1975)

Aftermarket Resin Engines Kit Form Services KFS "Yellow" Engine 1693 TA "Yellow" Engine C13 Scania 400 6 cyl Rolls Royce Eagle with Fuller Road Ranger P&P Resinworks **Availablility??** Cummins KTA 600 Detroit Diesel 12V-71 Auslowe Cummins N14 (with correct shaped heads and rocker covers) Cummins V903 Cummins V903T Cummins Signature ISX 15 Detroit Diesel 6V-71T Detroit Diesel 8V-92 Detroit Diesel 12V-71/12V-71T Detroit Diesel Series 60 Mack E7 Mack E9 Mack Tip Turbine aftercooler set "Yellow" engine 3406A Melbourne Truck Accessories **Company Folded** Detroit Diesel Series 60 Detroit Diesel 8V-92T Front Turbo Detroit Diesel 8V-92T Rear Turbo Detroit Diesel 8V-71 Detroit Diesel 12V-71 Detroit Diesel 12V-71T Sourkrauts Model Trucks **Availability??** Cummins KTA 600 Cummins L-10 Cummins M-11 Cummins V903 Detroit Diesel 4-71 Detroit Diesel 6-71 Detroit Diesel 6V-71T Detroit Diesel 12V-71 Mack Thermodyne 6 cyl Mack E6 Mack E7 Mack E9 "Yellow" Engine 3406A "Yellow" Engine 3406B Mo'luminum Cummins L-10 Cummins BT 4 Cummins 5.9 12 valve Detroit Diesel 12V-71 Detroit Diesel 6-71T Mack E7 Etech "Yellow" Engine C15 A&N Modeltrucks "Red Engine" Cummins X15 "Swedish Engine" (Volvo) D13 Gary Wallace (Clint Freeman) "Yellow" engine 3406E Modellers Resource Gardner 6LXB ST Supply Co "Yellow" engine 3406A Cummins X15 Detroit Diesel 6V-71 Mack 998 V8 Mack 865 V8 Mack MP8 I6 (Same as Volvo D13)

Okay one more try Caterpillar 1160 (Can be modified to a 3208 with a V-style diesel injection pump) AMT Ford LNT 8000 Caterpillar 3406A Revell/Monogram Kenworth W900 Aerodyne Snap Revell/Monogram Peterbilt 359 Snap Caterpillar 3408 Revell AG Kenworth W900 V.I.T. Revell AG Kenworth W900/T900 Australia Revell AG Kenworth W900 Dump Truck Revell AG Kenworth W900 Wrecker Cummins V903 ERTL International Transtar F-4270 Cummins NHC 250 AMT White Freightliner Single Drive AMT White Freightliner Dual Drive AMT Autocar 9964B Dump Truck AMT Autocar A64B Cummins NTA 370 AMT Kenworth K123/125 AMT Kenworth W923/925 AMT Kenworth W925 Challenge Transit Mixer AMT Kenworth W925 Alaskan Hauler AMT Kenworth T600A/Canepa Cummins NTC 350 AMT White Road Boss (the box says NTD 350 but there is no such engine) AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Series Cab T501 and all issues after that AMT Peterbilt 359 1100 Series Cab T533 and all issues after that AMT Diamond REO AMT White Western Star Cummins NTC 400 Italeri Freightliner FLC Italeri Freightliner FLC Dump Truck Italeri Freighliner FLD (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14 but it's not Revell AG/Italeri Mack Superliner Revell AG/Italeri Ford LTL 9000 (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14 but it's not Revell AG/Italeri Ford Aeromax (no aftercooler) probably meant to be a N14 but it's not Revell AG/Italeri Western Star Cummins NTC 475 (twin turbos) Revell AG Kenworth K100 Revell AG Kenworth K100 V.I.T. Australia Revell AG Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Revell AG Kenworth K100 Heavy Hauler Tri Drive Revell AG Kenworth T600 and T600 Big Sleeper Revell AG Marmon Conventional (a modified Peterbilt 359 wich is not that correct) Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Revell AG Peterbilt 353 and Alaskan Hauler Tri Drive Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Bill Signs Trucking Revell AG Peterbilt 359 Stepp's "Can Do" and the later "Will Do" Wrecker Detroit Diesel 8V-71 AMT Peterbilt 352 Pacemaker T551 and all issues after that AMT Peterbilt 359 California Hauler Unilite Cab "small window" T500-500, T500 and the most recent 866 AMT Peterbilt 359 Wrecker Unilite Cab "small window" T522 AMT GMC Astro 95 AMT Chevrolet Titan 90 AMT American LaFrance Fire Trucks ERTL International CO-4070A ERTL International Transtar II Eagle Detroit Diesel 8V-92 AMT/ERTL GMC General AMT/ERTL Chevrolet Bison Detroit Diesel 8V-92T AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne AMT Kenworth K100 Aerodyne BJ & the Bear AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Papa Truck AMT/Matchbox Kenworth K100 Aerodyne Hideout Truck Detroit Diesel 12V-71T AMT Kenworth W900 Super Boss "Thermo King" AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Super Boss "Bandag" AMT/Matchbox Kenworth W900 Bandag Bandit Detroit Diesel 16V-71 AMT/ERTL International Payhauler 350 Detroit Diesel Series 60 Italeri Peterbilt 378 Revell/Itelari 377AE International V-800 AMT/ERTL International Paystar 5000 AMT/ERTL International Transtar 4300 ERTL International F-2674/2575 International Maxxforce 15 Moebius/Revell AG International Pro Star Moebius/Revell AG International Lone Star Mack ENDT-673 MPC/ERTL/AMT Mack DM600 Mack ENDT-675 AMT/ERTL Mack R.685ST / R-Model MACK ENDT-676 Tip Turbine AMT/ERTL Mack Cruiseliner COE Mack ENDT-685 MPC/AMT/ERTL Mack DM800 Mack E9 Italeri Renault Magnum Italeri Renault Turboleader Turbine Experimental AMT GMC Astro first issue T520 from 1971-72 AMT Parts Pack PP029 Recently Issued

I have tried to post several times but have had problems with it...not fun when you have put in a lot of time on the post. I try to post a new modified list but just get a page not found 404 when I try.

Thanks for pinning.

Yes most likely, the Monogram body is the first version of the Firebird Trans Am body used in the mid 80's, but the racers later modified the Trans Am body with a longer nose and some aero improvements. Don "Snake" Prudhomme used the first version of that body style from 1982 to 1985 and the later version with the longer nose 1987 to 1989.

Very nice executed, the detailing is just right without overdoing it, a model to be proud of.

If you have looked into the box of one of the Polar Lights (now owned by Round 2) Ford Torino Talladega's or Mercury Cyclone Spoiler II's you know that they come with everything needed to do a period correct NASCAR car. The kits themselves are not exactly "Pro Modeler" style and are not easy to build as they needs a lot of work to be a nice model, so on a skill level scale where 3 are most difficult they are about 5...with that I mean very challenging. There are two engines in both kits, a 427 and a BOSS 429 (no 428 as they didn't use that engine in NASCAR) so you can build both versions. These are not difficult to find, there are lots of them on the auction site for around $20-$25. Models we need IMHO is new tool kits of 1963 and 1964 Ford Galaxies...the old ones AMT did are ...well old and leaves lots to desire...so we need more correct ones...they can be based on the 1960 Ford Galaxie Starliner tool as the chassis and drive train can be used from that kit...but we need new bodys, interiors and bright parts.

That was my original thought when I put the lists together...I thought it was good useful information for all truck builders...but the moderators haven't noticed and pinned the topic as I thought they would. This topic consists of two different topics merged together and further in I listed these truck diesels again and I also did a list of resin truck diesels as well as a list of truck engine colors...as I said...useful information for a truck model builder. These lists are not exactly up to date right now as some have dissappeared and some have been added since they were put together, but as we can't edit old posts anymore I can't fix it. But here is the link to my original lists wich are in this topic:

Great idea and you got a cool build there.

Nice work John, and so fast...I'm impressed.

I got mine today and I can't do anything else than agree...they are very very nice. Thanks for your work Rico.

I was asked if I had pictures of John Force's old cars a couple of days ago so I put this post together. This is a picture rich post but I hope you don't mind, all pictures are gathered on the web over the years and all credits goes to the original photographers and it spans from the first Funny Car he ever ran up to today 1973-74 The rear engined 71-73 Mustang John ran with his brother Louie, I think this was a former Jack Chrisman car. 1975 Chevy Vega FC 7726 1976 Chevy Monza FC 7726 1977 Chevy Monza FC 7726 1978 Chevy Corvette FC 723 1979 Chevy Corvette FC 8 Early 1980 Chevy Corvette FC 8 Late 1980 Chevy Citation FC 8 1981 Chevy Citation FC 723 1982 Chevy Citation FC 723 1983 Chevy Camaro FC 723 1984 Chevy Camaro FC 4 1985 Chevy Corvette FC 723 Early 1986 Chevy Corvette FC 5 Late 1986 Chevy Cavalier FC 5 1987 Olds Firenza FC 4 1988 Olds Cutlass FC 4 1989 Olds Cutlass FC 3 1990 Olds Cutlass FC 6 1991 Olds Cutlass FC 1 1992 Olds Cutlass FC 1 1993 Olds Cutlass FC 2 1994 Chevy Lumina FC 1 1995 Pontiac Firebird FC 1 1996 Pontiac Firebird FC 1 Early 1997 Pontiac Firebird FC 1 Late 1997 Ford Mustang FC 1 1998 Ford Mustang FC 1 1999 Ford Mustang FC 1 2000 Ford Mustang FC 1 2001 Ford Mustang FC 1 2002 Ford Mustang FC 1 2003 Ford Mustang FC 1 2004 Ford Mustang FC 3 2005 Ford Mustang FC 1 2006 Ford Mustang FC 3 2007 Ford Mustang FC 1, after Eric Medlens passing after the test crash in Gainesille FL John used FC 4 as a tribute to him, John himself crashed in Dallas TX and got injured and couldn't finish the year. 2008 Ford Mustang FC 7 2009 Ford Mustang FC 7 2010 Ford Mustang FC 9 2011 Ford Mustang FC 1 2012 Ford Mustang FC 9 2013 Ford mustang FC 9 2014 Ford Mustang FC 1 2015 Chevrolet Camaro FC 2 2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC 7 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC 4 2018 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC 7 2019 Chevrolet Camaro SS FC One thing you might notice is that the Funny Car bodies looked a lot more like the cars they were supposed to be up to 1999, after that NHRA lightened and changed the rules and we got the ugly wedge shaped bodies with a bump on top for the driver we have now.

And this has to do with "Car Kit News & Reviews" in what way???? But it's not a huge mystery why the 50 Olds beat the old 30's and 40's Ford's who had flatheads in them. Oldsmobile and Cadillac got Over Head Valve V8 engines in 1949 (Olds Rocket 303 cui and Cadillac 331 cui), both became very popular and were put in various cars to replace the old original less powerful engines if you wanted your car to go, Chrysler did their first OHV V8 1951 (331 cui), DeSoto 1952 (276 cui) and Dodge 1953 (241 cui) these were the first generation Hemis, Ford got their first OHV V8 engine (239 cui Y-Block) 1954 and the Chevrolet and Pontiac OHV V8 came 1955 (Chevy 265 cui small block and Pontiac 287 cui). So in short, the OHV V8's was better, more efficient and more powerful than the old flathead V8's. I don't know why you mention the 50 Ford Coupe tho', it still had a flathead as FoMoCo didn't do the OHV engine until 1954 as i mentioned...even the Mercury wich also had the same basic flathead V8 as the Ford's at the time had more horse power output...but the 49-51 Ford's and Mercury's was often re-powered with Cadillac or Oldsmobile OHV engines.

I agree, it's the easiest way to do a coil spring and you can do whatever diameter, length and distance between the coils you need to make it look right...I have often used soft wires to do coil springs and do as Peter explains, stretch it out a bit so the coil looks even and the spacing looks right. Using functional springs on a static model is just to make it more difficult than it has to be.

Don't worry, I did not take it that way. But a list of aftermarket suppiers for truck models would be a good thing...I don't know if doing a detailed list of what they have would be necessary if they have a website.

That's what I usually do and they get quite even.

That list includes resin diesel engines and who does them...but it was a while ago so it may have to be updated some as I know a few more has been done since then, in that same topic a bit further down I listed the engine colors for most American truck diesels. My original thought was that these lists would be pinned as it's good information for truck builders because frequently asked questions in the truck categories are "where can I find (fill in manufacturer and type) truck engine", and "what color is (fill in manufacturer and type) engine", that's why these lists should be pinned somewhere so they are easy to find...I had to search the forum for a while to find that specific topic now. I have these lists on my hard drive but that's not the case for everyone else, and I did them to help others. To list everything made for truck kits on the aftermarket would be a huge task and the availabillity changes as old stuff dissappears and new stuff being added, so it's easier to list the companies...with websites if they have one...and you can see for yourself what's available.