niteowl7710

I don't think Wal*Mart necessarily held as much sway with Revell as it did in Dyersville. Especially with those earlier kits like the Eldorado, Tri-Fives, '50 Ford & '65 Impala which were all done in the early/mid 90s. AMT/Ertl however created specific packaging specifically for them, those awful checkerboard boxes, and there were rumors that several projects were canceled because they didn't impress Wal*Mart's buyers (like the AMT '50 Oldsmobile). Those checkerboard boxes didn't come along until the 2000s.

What makes no sense? The fact that this obscure stuff you personally come on here and demand isn't financially viable to spend tens of thousands of dollars on to either restore or recreate missing/changed pieces? Or the fact that you seem to think that tooling is constructed out of lunch box sized pieces of metal that can be inserted Tetris style into a machine to run off bits and bobs to recreate kits? If you need tooling from 3 kits to make one, you are either going to have to run complete runs of all three kits and have a whole bunch of leftover parts, or gate off the parts of the tooling you don't want run to just get the specific parts out. Which means later you have to go back in and un-gate the rest of the kit in order to run the tooling in whatever complete kit it represents. Gating & un-gating is such a delicate task that you often see the un-gating process never taking place. That's how AMT "lost" the Peterbilt 359 California parts for 4 decades when they were part of the tooling of the Pacemaker which had been reissued multiple times. It's tantamount to impossible to expect Round2 to pull out the engine runners - and whatever else is attached to that - to run off the top end of the engine from another kit, and put it into a easier to find kit, just to make something that kinda sorta looks like a vintage kit you can't afford to buy. Also remember Round2 went through and ran test shots of EVERY SINGLE TOOL they own, they know what they have and what they don't. It's not some vast conspiracy to hold back "the good stuff".

It is a pretty prominent engine, I'm not sure how it would be possible to release this car as a curbside - much like the situation with the Beemax Lancia S4

If you think you can personally sell 5k of all these kits you want, feel free to come a "3rd Party Outfit" and foot the bill to restore or recreate all the missing tooling. Moebius isn't going to "put in" any hours on some old AMT tooling that Round2 owns.

Licensing Approval, so now the actual kit choices can be shown. Also note the "High Detail Engine" - this kit will be coming with a full detail motor.

Well it'll have the SBC out of the '30 this time...but they can't wave a magic wand and release everything all at once, they're still dealing with effectively renting time at the facility that does the actual injection molding and production of the kits and they obviously couldn't wholesale take it over.

Does the fact that spreadsheet has been handed out to pretty much every level of distributor from the mainline ones down to the local hobby shops make it still hearsay then?

Or a block of butter...

If I recall right the Imposter was one of the things you could vote for in the original Chip Foose "Viewer's Choice" thing that begat the FD-100 & Eldorod. That would indicate that if they didn't do basic research for it at the time, then they certainly have (had) access to the car in the event that it finished in the Top 2.

For clarification that would be Norway, Michigan, not the country of...

WalMart has always sold kits online - with free ship to store - even when they sold them in store. If you go through, some of them are legit Wal*Mart listing - they're the ones with free in-store pickup. Beyond that Walmart has turned their online "store" into a version of Amazon where 3rd Party vendors can fulfill orders as well. Which is why the prices are sideways on a lot of things, just like they are on Amazon.

Walmart didn't have anything to do with the Foose kits, they stopped carrying models in store a couple of years ago, and I doubt they really do enough volume online to have any clout. The big elephant in the room right now would be Hobby Lobby, they're buying half or more of the first run of any Revell kit.

Or if you want a one and done type of tool - without a built in "collectible" fan base like Chip Foose - then look at what Tamiya & Belkits are charging and figure on paying similar prices. I think you could sell 5,000 of anything globally to the distribution chain. But how many $60 Cadillacs are gonna get sold in total to actual customers.

Touche...fine a Series 62 if we're gonna argue semantics.

I'd love to have a stock '48 Eldorado too. But I think what frustrates people is when new threads are created whining about tools (this and the FD-100) that are over a year old, combined with the rabid Anti-Foose nonsense within those threads. We had all of this debate and discussion leading up to the releases, and then after the release. What purpose does it serve to continue to lament what these kit are or aren't at this point?

I don't believe anything was done to the body of the Duster, or really anything else with that kit. The plan fell apart with the parts of the Demon being more work than practical to restore AND make compatible with the 90s era Duster chassis and running gear.

Well you have to remember in the era we're in the vast majority of a kit's life span is built into it from Day 1. All the tooling is cut at one time, and then they just run the inserts and tooling blocks needed for a given project. The Moebius F Series is a prime example of that, if you remember far enough back someone accidentally posted test shots way back before the first kits were even issued that showed the 4x4 parts. Meaning those pieces have existed since 2014 and have just taken over 4 years to finally land on the shelf. Long story short, if Revell ever planned to make a Ranchero out of this, it would have been decided back in 2011 before the kit was ever tooled so everything could be interchangeable. It's up to the new ownership to decide if they want to run the tooling in that configuration.

Then they'd have to license them, and a then a $30+ model kit costs closer to $35. Then everyone keyboard Rambos Moebius and Burkett over the OUTRAGEOUS prices. Nothing against you personally, but if this forum has proven anything to me in the past 9 yrs it's that a lot of people say they want detail added, but very few people are actually willing to pay for it.

It'll be similar to the Pepsi that sets your head on fire...

Yeah that Foose FD-100 is such a lousy choice for a kit that the new Revell decided to do another run of it on it's first dozen kits to be re-stocked. I bet all the manufacturers wish they could have such a failure.

If they had no license they wouldn't be able to sell them - look at when Revell in Germany lost their Ferrari license and had to cease & desist selling every single Ferrari kit they had in inventory, taking them off their website and not distributing any kits beyond the stuff that already existed on the market.

Gregg bought the magazine back when it had a different title, at some point after his accident he sold it to Golden Bell and was paid a fee to produce the content (more of a contractor than employee). When Golden Bell closed he than had to repurchase it, and that's where we stand today with a terribly underfunded operation that has a worse publication schedule than when it was published by GB based on submitted content. Of course a lot of what kept MCM afloat in the GB days was the tireless work of the actual editors, especially Harry in getting stuff done. This forum however has always been owned by Gregg separately from any control of the magazine itself regardless to the ownership.

Well the Foose license expired before the sale took place, and it looks like they managed to pull that one back together again quickly enough to get that kit out in the 2nd month of re-runs. The only thing that would stand between TD licensing and Revell is TD himself being a stick in the mud over the sale - which I expect is more about how much he was owed, than the entity itself (friendships excluded).

They're not molding anything in the U.S., as covered earlier in the thread it the original picture of the tooling in Illinois is just that, the tooling in Illinois. To the company who has been running and producing the Illinois tooling for the past 2 years. They're opening a Sales Office, not a "new" Revell U.S. Operations with design, and production.