Thanks Ace, i got all that -i'm sure you beern building a long time-55 years for me. .I do the spoons and test since i still have approx. 600 aerosol cans left.What i was just wondering was if somebody may have tried these colors and knew the difference. Thank you so much for your help-I appreciate you helping. I also do some custom painting for a couple other forum modelers and some resto work. Anything i can help you with please let me know-also if you're looking for anything please let me know-i'd be glad to help THANKS AGAIN PARTS MARTY R.O.R.D.