rusty85 Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 A large percentage of people comprising the under 30 demographic in today's world are shallow, low information, technology addicted, narcissistic me-monkeys who couldn't find New Jersey on a map or tell you who won the Revolutionary War. Asking them to notice any differences between cars is beyond their synaptic resources.Haha! a statement typical of myopic old men who can't seem to pull their head out of the 60's. The simple fact whether you wish to admit it or not is that every major generation of cars look very similar. And no your average non car guy under 30 couldn't tell between any of the cars Aaron mentioned, hardly shocking as there have been almost none on the road for several decades.
Aaronw Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 Well with attitudes like that I can't imagine why we don't have young people breaking down doors to get into this hobby. Me no like new things, new things dumb, people who like new things clueless idiots.
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 Can you drive it 100,000 miles with no maintenance beyond oil changes and putting fuel in it? You can with most new cars, and that is what most people want, a car that they don't have to think about.The majority of people are not "car guys", cars are appliances. Asking them what is under the hood is like asking you the same question about your dishwasher. As far as the Nomad? Get a photo of a '57 Chevy, '57 Buick and a '57 Oldsmobile. Show those photos to a bunch of random people under 30 and see if they can identify them, see if they even notice that they are not different pictures of the same car.I agree. Newer cars are much more reliable & efficient than the old ones. As far as a daily driver goes, I'd much rather have a new one.But this discussion has been about styling. I think there's been little debate that the new cars are more stylish than the old.As far as recognition goes, it's not really a question of whether or not someone can recognize a particular make, model & year over another. The question is how much variation there was in styling back then as compared to today. whether or not someone from the younger generation can differentiate a '57 Buick from a '57 Chevy is a moot point.I'm positive that same demographic would not be able to discern any difference between newer cars either. Steve
SfanGoch Posted August 29, 2015 Author Posted August 29, 2015 Haha! a statement typical of myopic old men who can't seem to pull their head out of the 60's. The simple fact whether you wish to admit it or not is that every major generation of cars look very similar. And no your average non car guy under 30 couldn't tell between any of the cars Aaron mentioned, hardly shocking as there have been almost none on the road for several decades. Heh, I'm neither myopic nor old. I just know what looks good.
Aaronw Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Scion xB, Scion Tc, Scion FRS, Nissan Cube, Nissan Juke, Dodge Charger, VW Golf, VW Beetle, Mazda 3 all quite distinctive and quite popular with the younger generations. I'm well aware of what the majority here think about these cars. Edited August 29, 2015 by Aaronw
SfanGoch Posted August 29, 2015 Author Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) Well with attitudes like that I can't imagine why we don't have young people breaking down doors to get into this hobby. Me no like new things, new things dumb, people who like new things clueless idiots.As Perry Mason would say, your argument is irrelevant, incompetent, immaterial and specious. What does somebody's perceived attitude have to do with getting "more young people" into this hobby? Absolutely nothing. If attitude was a prevailing factor as to whether one chooses to take up hobbies or do anything else, like driving a car, for instance, there wouldn't be any people doing anything. People choose to do what they do, or not, because it interests them, not because they were dissuaded by another's "attitude". Kids today aren't interested in this hobby because they have shorter attention spans which is the result of substitutes like video gaming. They have no interest in protracted endeavors. They are interested in instant gratification, something that you don't get assembling a model. Learn to think and decide for yourself and don't base your decisions on other people's attitude. Otherwise, you're nothing but a tool. Edited August 29, 2015 by SfanGoch
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 & they're not interested in cars in general.They're main interest is whether or not it's compatible with their "Smart Phone". Steve
SfanGoch Posted August 29, 2015 Author Posted August 29, 2015 & they're not interested in cars in general.They're main interest is whether or not it's compatible with their "Smart Phone". SteveBada-bing, Bada-boom. We have a winner!
sjordan2 Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 But it might be more important for the younger generation to know the difference between "there," " their" and "they're." Could make a difference on a job application.
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) But it might be more important for the younger generation to know the difference between "there," " their" and "they're." Could make a difference on a job application. In all fairness, it would seem that many old farts are also homonym-challenged, but they don't have the ready-made excuse of being conditioned to quickie thumb-spelling on the ol' texter thingie. "HOMONYMS are words that sound alike but have different meanings.Homophones are a type of homonym that also sound alike and have different meanings, but have different spellings. HOMOGRAPHS are words that are spelled the same but have different meanings.Heteronyms are a type of homograph that are also spelled the same and have different meanings, but sound different. WORDS THAT BOTH SOUND THE SAME AND ARE SPELLED THE SAME are both homonyms (same sound) and homographs (same spelling). Example: lie (untruth) and lie (prone); fair (county fair), fair (reasonable)." OMG, OMG...couldn't we just measure some header-spacing nits instead? Accuracy in ANYTHING is so hard !!! Edited August 30, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy
Jon Haigwood Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 Interesting commercial you posted a link to here Jon. Am I missing something in this commercial? Because Audi they're advertising looks no different to me than all the other vehicles shown in that ad.no, that was the point
Harry P. Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 Homonyms...heteronyms... Can't we all just get along?
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 Homonyms...heteronyms... Can't we all just get along? I need to do a T-shirt of that...
Jon Haigwood Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) No I like new things. I like them for their (or is it there?) functionality. I prefer to look at older cars with something we called "style" nice to look at and work on and admired for their Classic lines and form. Similar to comparing "electronic music" with "Southern Rock". I go to Cruise ins to walk around and look at the well designed cars. If I liked the looks of the new cars I could just walk thru a Walmart parking lot. There (or is it their?) is a place for all of them.(Sorry still can't figure out this new quote thing) (suppose to be from AaronW) Edited August 30, 2015 by Jon Haigwood
SfanGoch Posted August 30, 2015 Author Posted August 30, 2015 But it might be more important for the younger generation to know the difference between "there," " their" and "they're." Could make a difference on a job application. Your write. Never use a pencil to fill out an application or form. Printing your name in a slant doesn't qualify as a signature, either. If you sign your name in Box 1 (Print Name), tear up the application, walk out and start walking dogs. As a rule, dogs aren't sticklers about spelling and grammar.
SfanGoch Posted August 30, 2015 Author Posted August 30, 2015 I understand that there's a smoke signal texting app available. Speaking of which, why should I pay an extra 50-100 bucks in order to get a cigarette lighter and ashtrays in a new car? Oh yeah......that's right...... smoking is hazardous to my health and could distract my attention from driving safely. Not nearly as hazardous as the brain dead momo who is doing 65 on the Interstate while he/she is texting on the iCrap device plugged into the DC outlet which replaced the lighter.
Joe Handley Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 You're not serious, are you?The Chevy has rectangular tail lights, and the Buick has......almost rectangular tail lights & an extra trim piece. That's nuance. Name one similarity between the '60 Olds & Buick.If it wasn't for badging, no one would ever be able to differentiate modern cars. SteveYou are actually taking a look at pictures of two cars that look nothing alike other than a shared antenna and saying that they are indistinguishable from each other yet two cars that have a similar silhouette and the exact same roof options look completely different?
Joe Handley Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 Here's a little experiment. How many of us instantly recognize this car? Now, how many of us instantly recognize this one? I rest my case. Steve Acura MDX, not sure what year off hand, but I generally despise almost all things Crossover, the KL Cherokee Trailhawk excluded, no matter the manufacturer.
SfanGoch Posted August 30, 2015 Author Posted August 30, 2015 The one at the bottom has better off-road handling, especially in water.
Lovefordgalaxie Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 I'm a disturbed individual since young age. When I was 18 and was getting into college, my mom had my father to buy me a car to commute. Sooo they both went into a Chevrolet dealer and got me a then new 1995 Chevrolet Astra. That car was an Opel Astra four door hatchback, just like the ones sold in Europe. Ours here had the chrome V shaped Vauxhall grille and the 8 valve 2.0 liter engine. About a month after getting the car I traded it. Saw a newspaper add of a 1982 Galaxie Landau, with low kilometers, and original paint. Got out of college on Saturday morning and drove 360 km to the city the guy was. Getting there, I saw the Landau in first hand. The car has 33.000 Km on the clock, all around original acrylic enamel metallic paint, from the factory, the spare had never being used, the four factory tires were still there, and the interior still had a slight new car scent. The guy wouldn't accept the Astra, so I went to the local Chevy dealer, sold it, and came back with the cash. Got back to college driving the Landau. I got into some trouble for doing this... But I just hated driving that pos Astra. I was used to drive my father's 1973 Chevy Veraneio, a car he only used as a second or back up car, or his own Galaxie up until he started getting Mercedes cars, that I hate from the bottom of my heart. During college I put some more kilometers on that Landau... about 40.000 more, and I took care of her so she wouldn't get beaten. I still have this car today, she still is all original, and I had only to replace the tires. Like the '82 came from the factory with 215/70SR15 radials, I replaced the original tires with the same size radials, even tough I was tempted to install some G70-15 Wide Ovals. Here she is last year when I did a video of her: The year I got out of college with my Engineering degree (2000), I bought the '74 Galaxie, that I repainted, and rebuilt the engine, to be my daily driver. She still is my daily driver. The sound and feeling no new car can give you:
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 You're right, you win. Absolute night & day difference! Steve
Harry Joy Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 & they're not interested in cars in general.They're main interest is whether or not it's compatible with their "Smart Phone". SteveMy stepson, about to turn 25, asked me a while back where the GPS is in my car (2013 Impala). I directed his attention to the glovebox. He opened it up and shuffled the papers within (registration, car manual, and a stash of maps), and said he didn't see it. Once he had a pile of maps in his lap, I said that was part of my GPS, and suggested he pull back one more layer in the glovebox for the rest. When he laid hands on the compass, I said "There you go". Yeah, he thinks I'm a fossil.
SfanGoch Posted August 30, 2015 Author Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Technology is great. Total dependence on it isn't. The Millennials will be in a world of major butthurt if some nation(s), who shall remain nameless , decide to detonate a nuclear device in the atmosphere over this here country and cause an EMP which will literally fry the innards of every piece of unshielded electronic equipment. No smart phones, no internet, no GPS and no fancy-schmancy, aerodynamically designed, look-a-like Silly Putty eggs with sunroofs. I'll wave at all the lost and helpless yoots as I pass by in my 1967 Coupe de Ville. Edited August 30, 2015 by SfanGoch
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