Crimson and Clover

[Harry P.]

Some of you guys may know that I love spending time on youtube, playing some of the favorite songs of my childhood. I love that late '60s-early '70s music!

When I was a little kid back in the late '60s, one of my favorite bands was Tommy James and the Shondells. So how cool is it that I came across this video of Tommy doing one of the band's biggest hits ever, live, a few years ago. Nice to see that TJ is still going strong in the 21st century...

[Ramfins59]

Didn't they used to call it "Bubble Gum Rock"...??  Tommy James, one of the lovers of reverb...

[Ace-Garageguy]

Cool.  Another one of theirs I love is Crystal Blue Persuasion. 1969.

Edited February 26, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy

[slusher]

Some of you guys may know that I love spending time on youtube, playing some of the favorite songs of my childhood. I love that late '60s-early '70s music!

When I was a little kid back in the late '60s, one of my favorite bands was Tommy James and the Shondells. So how cool is it that I came across this video of Tommy doing one of the band's biggest hits ever, live, a few years ago. Nice to see that TJ is still going strong in the 21st century...

Great song I was not a fan of Joan Jett's version of it..

Cool.  Another one of theirs I love is Crystal Blue Persuasion. 1969.

Ace that was used in Breaking Bad when Waltter was cooking his blue meth.

[Snake45]

Didn't they used to call it "Bubble Gum Rock"...??  Tommy James, one of the lovers of reverb...

Same era, but slightly different subgenre.

[Harry P.]

Didn't they used to call it "Bubble Gum Rock"...??  Tommy James, one of the lovers of reverb...

I don't think that TJ and the Shondells would fall under the "Bubblegum" umbrella. That was for the Archies, 1910 Fruitgum Company, Bobby Sherman, Tommy Roe, Ohio Express, etc. Acts whose music was aimed squarely at kids.

I think the Shondells were a legitimate pop/rock band.

[Danno]

Harry's right.  They were at the forefront of 'psychedelic rock' which kind of morphed into 'acid rock.'

[Harry P.]

Cool.  Another one of theirs I love is Crystal Blue Persuasion. 1969.

I loved that song when it came out.

Here's another great performance of one of their classics, taken from the same show at The Bitter End that they did "Crimson and Clover"...

[Harry P.]

Tommy James, one of the lovers of reverb...

[madhorseman]

Yeah late 60's early 70's were a great time for music.

I have to say that I prefer TJ and Shondells later stuff though, like what You mentioned Harry. Along with "Sugar on Sunday" and this one:

[Harry P.]

I love Draggin' the Line!

[Crazy Ed]

I don't think that TJ and the Shondells would fall under the "Bubblegum" umbrella. That was for the Archies, 1910 Fruitgum Company, Bobby Sherman, Tommy Roe, Ohio Express, etc. Acts whose music was aimed squarely at kids.

I think the Shondells were a legitimate pop/rock band.

   Harry, ya missed the Monkees and Hermans Hermits. Two of the Early ones.

Edited February 27, 2016 by Crazy Ed

[Snake45]

"Crimson & Clover" is my alltime favorite TJ&S song, bar none. When it came on at the hop, you made a beeline for the cutest girl in the place--the one you were afraid to talk to at any other time.

It's right up there with the Bee Gees "To Love Somebody" as one of the most romantic songs of that era. And the Stones' "Ruby Tuesday."

[Harry P.]

Ed, Herman's Hermits were part of the "British invasion," along with the Beatles, Stones, Yardbirds, Kinks, Animals, Dave Clark Five, Hollies, etc. They were definitely not "bubblegum."

[STYRENE-SURFER]

Harry..

Check out "Unsteady Freddie" channel on you tube

Here is a taste (Iron Butterfly) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EehdZX95YA

[STYRENE-SURFER]

One of my favorites, Not the obvious.

[Snake45]

Ed, Herman's Hermits were part of the "British invasion," along with the Beatles, Stones, Yardbirds, Kinks, Animals, Dave Clark Five, Hollies, etc. They were definitely not "bubblegum."

Correct. Hermits and Monkees were never classified as "bubblegum music," athough both had some songs that would have fit right into that genre quite handily.

[slusher]

Joan Jett's version Harry..

[Crazy Ed]

Ed, Herman's Hermits were part of the "British invasion," along with the Beatles, Stones, Yardbirds, Kinks, Animals, Dave Clark Five, Hollies, etc. They were definitely not "bubblegum."

Correct. Hermits and Monkees were never classified as "bubblegum music," athough both had some songs that would have fit right into that genre quite handily.

      I know who the Hermans Hermits were (are?) and when they happened. I guess where we're differing is Classified as by the Press vs Listeners. We used the term Bubblegum Music to indicate Groups that were geared towards Early and pre Teen aged listeners. And both fit that definition, hence my post. Even Peter Noone in an interview in the 80's said the group was geared towards "bubblegumers" when he was promoting a Concert at the Santa Cruz Boardwalk in Calif.

[MrObsessive]

This one I remember well and a favorite of mine-------Summertime 1971........

And here's TJ and The Shondells doing it live............

 

[my66s55]

So which was it? Bubblegum or Psychedelic? Wikipedia outlines it as both. Songs produced between Hanky Panky and Crimson and Clover were classified as Bubblegum. Tommy hated the classification and thus changed to Psychedelic. Everyone's post is correct.

[69NovaYenko]

 

Oppps submitted post to wrong thread...

Edited February 27, 2016 by 69NovaYenko

[Snake45]

This list of  popular culture car songs would be incomplete without the Princess`s  1983 hit "Little Red Corvette" for the 1999 album. The song peaked at number six on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart in 1983.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/10777115/prince_little_red_corvette/

 

 

What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

[madhorseman]

Didn't they used to call it "Bubble Gum Rock"...??  Tommy James, one of the lovers of reverb...

Someone else who loved it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az2rHv57zq4

[madhorseman]

I believe what Tommy James used on "Crimson and Clover" was actually: TREMOLO