Greg Myers Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Boy this thread has a life of it's own going full circle.
Johnny99 Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Firewall's a piece of cake. If you want a good stock-style piece, get one from any of the OLD-TOOL Revell '31 Fords based on this kit... The roof looks like it will take some relatively simple scratch-mods, using sheet styrene. A good skill-building exercise. Hot-rods by nature have things modified as they're built, and many bodies like the one represented in the new kit will have had their firewalls and/or roof openings modified. It is of course impossible to represent ALL the possible permutations in ONE kit, but it's a great starting point for building a chopped '30-'31, and will look just fine built straight out of the box. I know for sure this is a Hot Rod and I'm glad it is. Gonna get a couple of these and can't take the firewall from another kit to all of them. What I was hoping for was someone to show a "simple" way to make look more "right", thinking of the "extension" of the body surrounding the firewall...I know styrenestrips, but any good tips are welcome. I will fill the roofopening on some , but would like to have a "stock" opening or insert on some...
Greg Myers Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 My comment " Start with stock " was in regard to the firewall and top only. I'm glad it's a hot rod as well. It's just that some modification , those mentioned, are unnecessary and not common to most hot rod model A's. I understand the firewall hood fitment issue however the top just doesn't fly in my vision of hot rod model A Fords.
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) My comment " Start with stock " was in regard to the firewall and top only. I'm glad it's a hot rod as well. It's just that some modification , those mentioned, are unnecessary and not common to most hot rod model A's. I understand the firewall hood fitment issue however the top just doesn't fly in my vision of hot rod model A Fords. I too would have vastly preferred a stock-dimensioned roof opening, and offering a stock firewall as an option (copying it directly from Revell's 50-year old one probably wouldn't have exactly broken the project bank) would have been most welcome. Still, until I actually have this kit in hand, I'm going to refrain from making any further judgment or even suggestions. However, obtaining and copying a stock firewall multiple times isn't rocket science, or even moderately difficult. Kinda a PITA, but not hard. Just pretend (not directed at Greg, but to anyone who buys the thing) when you open the kit, that it's a REAL car that was modified by a previous owner in a way you don't like, and need to correct. It'll just add another layer of realism to the project, as some of us have to deal with stuff like this in reality on a constant, daily basis. Edited April 17, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy
Rob Hall Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Not sure why people are making a big deal out of the firewall...it's a hot rod, not a stock version...so obviously, it's going to have modified parts...
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Not sure why people are making a big deal out of the firewall...it's a hot rod, not a stock version...so obviously, it's going to have modified parts... Mainly because the vast majority of '30-'31 rods out there have firewalls that are close to stock or very recognizably made from the OEM part. Some builders would simply prefer to have the option of starting with a correctly-represented stock part and doing their own mods. There's probably a far larger group of potential builders who don't know, or care, what a stock firewall looks like, and wouldn't want to have to modify anything.
keyser Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 I'm not a 5w fan, but this looks awesome. Plus, I'm going to mess with the woody/tudor bash immediately.Interior framework is brilliant feature. That easily overwhelms the firewall issue.
Greg Myers Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Mainly because the vast majority of '30-'31 rods out there have firewalls that are close to stock or very recognizably made from the OEM part. Some builders would simply prefer to have the option of starting with a correctly-represented stock part and doing their own mods. There's probably a far larger group of potential builders who don't know, or care, what a stock firewall looks like, and wouldn't want to have to modify anything. Yes
Johnny99 Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Don't get me wrong...I really think this is gonna be a great kit.I will buy a bunch of them and will probably ask for more help and suggestions... Edited April 18, 2016 by Johnny99
Greg Myers Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Safe bet, we're all gonna buy more than one. I know I am.Now, what to do with all those Monogram 1/24th scale kits in my stash ? Edited April 18, 2016 by Greg Myers changr
Spex84 Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Greg--those Monogram 1/24 kits are utterly useless now. I'll take 'em off your hands, how does a dollar each sound?
stavanzer Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Greg, I'll go $2.50 each for those poor old Monogram 1/24 scale kits. And I'm in Cali,, so the shipping will be cheaper.
russosborne Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Greg, I will go $3 each and no shipping. Russ
exesivefire Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Use the roof on these? Heck I bet it would work given how close this is
tim boyd Posted April 19, 2016 Author Posted April 19, 2016 1/1 scale pictures of '28/'29 Model A Coupes (for kitbashing the Revell '29A Roadster kit)....click here......TIM
Daddyfink Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 I think the thread title needs to be changed to "Now with pictures!"
russosborne Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Heck, Russ raised my bid. OK $3.50 each. But with me I can just go pick them up, Greg wouldn't have to deal with shipping. Russ
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) I want to know two things. 1) If it's a one-piece body, I really want to see how they made sliding tool sections to accommodate that visor overhang / undercut.2) If the headers really have the little whoopdees on the rearmost primary pipes. Edited April 20, 2016 by Ace-Garageguy
exesivefire Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 I want to know two things. 1) If it's a one-piece body, I really want to see how they made sliding tool sections to accommodate that visor overhang / undercut.2) If the headers really have the little whoopdees on the rearmost primary pipes.The body is 2 parts on the examples at NNL east
Ace-Garageguy Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 The body is 2 parts on the examples at NNL east Thanks. There had been a fair bit of speculation of late that it was a single piece, which I thought unlikely given the draft angles on the parts. The test shot photos confirm the whoopdee on the rear header primary on the driver's side. Kind of a shame, as it's usually not necessary to hula-hoop the header to clear the steering on one of these in 1:1, if things are engineered in advance of cutting and welding steel. The whoopdee on the header is just one more thing that will have to be corrected if the what-could-have-been-perfect-generic-smallblock-Chevy-in a hot rod-headers are to be used on something else. Not too hard to fix though.
Johnny99 Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 Is it just me....It seems to be "a lot of air" between the engine and radiator.
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