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The Current "Foose" kits were Originally offered as Stock replicas

then re-issued as Foose kits with new added parts

Thus, Yes, they can Still be built Stock

 

The 1 NEW TOOL kits being discussed here will NOT be buildable as Stock replicas as the bodies will be 

altered. More so in the Cadillac than the F-100.

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Lol. I like to draw, and Chip Foose is in the pantheon with guys like Thom Taylor, Steve Stanford, Dave Bell, Darell Mayabb, Ed Deal, Tom Daniels, Harry Bradley...the list goes on.
The wheel line and reality TV stuff is just meat and potatoes for Foose. He's managed to go from marker-wielding design student to brand-name designer, and actual builder of high-quality cars. Many guys half-heartedly sand the paint off a Camaro and that's as far as they get. I may not agree with some of the design trends that Foose's shop embraces, but I absolutely don't begrudge his success.

And if it brings us more model kits with cool parts?? That's awesome!

The Roth and Tom Daniels kits are still in circulation. I've purchased some of them.

If the Foose cars (say, the Cadillac) are sitting on Art Morrison frames, the parts are going to be great for high-tech customs and possibly kitbashed pro-touring builds.

I wasn't a fan of the Rat Roaster, but there were a lot of good parts in that kit. Just because you buy a kit of a certain car...doesn't mean you have to follow the instructions!! Chip Foose wouldn't, that's for sure.

And MAN...it's been so many years, and Cadzilla still looks fantastic.

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It was enjoyable reading that type of perspective, Chris. :)

I think back to other one-version-only kits from the last 20 years, kits which shared almost no other parts (save for maybe tires) with any other kits, and I can't come up with very many:

AMT '39 Chevy Wagonrod (also with an Art Morrison chassis and then-modern street rod components) and '32 Ford Phantom Vickie kits (both are nearing 20 years old)

Revell's Stacy David's Rat Roaster

Testors'  Aluma-Coupe, Chezoom, and the Boyd's Hauler Chevy Pickup

Revell's late '80s Pro Street Kits, though they had a greater number of non-shared parts, used the chassis and engines interchangeably, with bodies, wheels, and some interior parts being different between the J-2000, Corvette, Lincoln LSC, Beretta and T-bird kits.

My guess is the '55 Ford F-100 will be a huge hit, while the Eldorod will be a sales dud. We shall see...

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The F100 is pretty amazing truck, and Sam Foose did some of that too. The Eldorod is less timeless, and iconic, so I'd agree Casey. Still, if chassis is nice, no reason a different body couldn't appear on the chassis. 

Revell has done designer kits forever, you forgot the Buttera T and the tub and delivery variants (We all should forget the 33-34 thing on same chassis save for a parts donor). That was in '76? Honest to god, that's 40 friggin' years ago? You said 20. Geez. 

I agree that these kits will be parts goldmines, as well as a nice build.

The truck is a big window 56, and not very cut up, mostly hood section. Since the other 56 is an ancient relic, there's a huge upside, and market. 

You can't tell me this thing isn't cool. 

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By the way, speaking of Revell's '32 Rat Roaster kit, I was amazed to all of a sudden find them completely gone!!!! It seems last week I saw them in Michael's, Hobby Lobby and there were at least three of them at my LHS. And as of two days ago, they have all vanished. Not a single one on e-bay either. What is going on? 

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That 56 truck has a lot of subtle changes, such as the front fender openings being moved forward. It would be hard to build stock but it's a really good looking truck as it sits.

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By the way, speaking of Revell's '32 Rat Roaster kit, I was amazed to all of a sudden find them completely gone!!!! It seems last week I saw them in Michael's, Hobby Lobby and there were at least three of them at my LHS. And as of two days ago, they have all vanished. Not a single one on e-bay either. What is going on? 

They've been discontinued for a while, probably close to 2 years.  I suspect the licensing agreement with Stacy David ran out and was not renewed but I do not know that for sure. Was probably only a 1-year deal.  

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You can't tell me this thing isn't cool. 

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I am in for at least two of these kits. This truck looks exactly like how I have envisioned building one for over 40 years! 

I'd buy multiples just to get those wheels LOL!

 

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They've been discontinued for a while, probably close to 2 years.  I suspect the licensing agreement with Stacy David ran out and was not renewed but I do not know that for sure. Was probably only a 1-year deal.  

Ordinarily, licensing for model kits (and diecast models) covers a set number of kits as a guarranteed amount, but more than likely a kit that is discontinued was dropped due to flagging sales, to the point that it makes no sense to mold up more at the time.    Relax, because if the particular subject has any "legs" at all, it will return!

Art

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Doesn't anybody ever bother to actually look at the truth of stuff?

Foose DESIGNED THIS CAR FOR BOYD when Foose was chief designer there. Changes were made to Foose's design when the car was built...who knows why. Most of Foose's work here has been to rebuild the car the way HE originally envisioned it.

Barris got much of the credit for several designs he didn't actually do, as did Boyd. Barris even went farther and claimed involvement with projects he never touched, BUT THIS CAR IS A FOOSE DESIGN. 

It's the DESIGNER who should be credited prominently with any custom car build, along WITH the shop that constructs it.

Jose's Nail Pounders, Inc. doesn't deserve full credit for the work done by an architect, and it's the same concept here.

Some of you all may not care for Foose's designs, but the man is HIGHLY gifted and SKILLED, and can get in the shop and straighten things out with his own hands when his people are in over their heads.

He is the real deal...and no, we're not friends. I've never even met the man. But saying he's taken credit for other peoples' designs is just bull and it really chaps me to hear it repeated.

 

AND, you have to separate out the Overhaulin' builds from his actual custom work.  The two new tools Revell is doing are supposed to be reviewed and approved by Foose and UNIQUE.  Revell will still do Foose branded mods on other kits with what I consider more of the Overhaulin' orientation rather than a major modified custom.

 

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You can't tell me this thing isn't cool. 

 

It's not lol;) It does have the nice, not so obvious, work on it. Very clean, but very boring too. 

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The licensing deal I would like to see would be with Gas Monkey Garage. Most of the stuff they build retains the factory stock lines, mostly parts swaps and such. They also tend to build more off beat cars rather than the same old mustang and camaro although they do there share of those too. Imagine the kit-bashing potential of that 59 rambler wagon and the hellcat dart, or the cool gasser parts in the 52 ford. And since they don't do a lot of heavy custom body work almost everything could be a 2 in 1 kit. Personally, I would rather see Moebius do a deal with them, they could start out with any of the ford shop trucks they built but Revell's deeper catalog would give them a leg up.

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I have an AMT '53 F100 on the bench as a side-burner custom project. One of the first things I did was move the front wheel openings forward to get rid of the awful overhang the stock truck had.  It kind of needs a hood section, but I don't have the heart to cut into the nice curves of the stock hood, worried I'd never get it smooth again.

It drives me nuts when 1:1 builders do all the work to street-rod an F100, but leave the awkward stock wheel/arch position untouched. *facepalm*

So a Ford f100 kit with pre-adjusted fender arches and sectioned hood?? Sign me UP! If the scale is right, it could be kitbashed with the old AMT F100 to create a very nice 50s/60s-style custom.

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I have an AMT '53 F100 on the bench as a side-burner custom project. One of the first things I did was move the front wheel openings forward to get rid of the awful overhang the stock truck had. 

Yessir...i started this thing back about 2009 or so...   :D

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I remember that mockup well, it's in my reference folder to copy someday :D

The stance, wheel-tire package, and body mods are bang-on.

I have a drawing somewhere of a similar truck with LED headlight rings wrapped around turbo inlets where the stock headlights would be. Drew it years before the Hellcat was announced!

I had your build in mind when I cut into my '53, but the front arches ended up tilted slightly forward so they're no longer level with the windows...going to have to re-cut and adjust them :P

Oh well. That's what happens when I get chop-happy and don't measure three times before I start slicing!

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I recently read a post on that other forum about 2 new kits from Revell.  A 48 Cadillac convertible and 56 F100.  Fact or fiction?  Would the 56 F100 be an all new tool?

the 56 pick up is a new tool .......Jim Keeler

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Absolutely awesome to hear from you Mr. Keeler and thank you for the info on the 56 pick up.     Jeff 

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Welcome to the Forum Jim! 

Happy B-Day too!

Cheers Misha

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