What kit had these 1/25 wheels?

['70 Grande]

Can anyone inform me what 1/25 kit these deep-dish, steel wheels were found in?  They are molded in the most unusual Turquoise, (Blue/Green), styrene color.  Thanks!

[Snake45]

They look familiar, but the color is a clue that they might well be JoHans of some kind.

[Mark]

They look familiar, but the color is a clue that they might well be JoHans of some kind.

I can't remember a Jo-Han kit wheel with an axle boss on the back like these.  The front side of the wheel looks like those in a number of AMT kits, but I can't tie that color in with anything.

[Can-Con]

They look like the ones in the AMT '58 Impala but I don't remember it being issued in that color.

[espo]

I was thinking they might be the rear wheel option on the old AMT '49 Ford. They had an optional deep set rear wheels and slicks. I just don't think they ever issued the get in green though. Could those wheels have been painted ?

['70 Grande]

The wheels are definitely not painted and never have been, they're still in their original Blue/Green molded styrene color.  That's one thing that struck me as so unusual about these wheels; that color of styrene is one that I've never seen a kit molded in and I've been building kits since the late-1960's!  I don't remember a deep-dish wheel style being inside the AMT '58 Impala kit, so I don't think they came from a version of that kit.  The deep-dish wheel style is very similar to the AMT '49 Ford kit's deep-dish wheels, but I don't remember any '49 Ford's being done in that color either.

I was wondering if they might have come from a kit along the lines of a custom, Tom Daniel design or possibly one of those "South-of-the-Border" AMT kits from the late-1960's-early-1970's.  And wasn't there a mid-1960's Ford Galaxie released once by AMT that was molded in a Dark Green styrene color that might have been similar to this Blue/Green color and it could be decaled as the "Big Green Machine" drag car, or something like that?

[Snake45]

... or possibly one of those "South-of-the-Border" AMT kits from the late-1960's-early-1970's. 

I have the Che Riviera and it's molded in white.

[Casey]

 And wasn't there a mid-1960's Ford Galaxie released once by AMT that was molded in a Dark Green styrene color that might have been similar to this Blue/Green color and it could be decaled as the "Big Green Machine" drag car, or something like that?

The AMT Jolly Green Gasser '65 Galaxie does appear to have been molded in a funky green color, but I don't think it ever had deep dish steel wheels:

https://youtu.be/fgz9kNsz2S4?t=22s

 

Edited January 8, 2017 by Casey

[Casey]

Here is a pic of the circa 1985-ish AMT '58 Impala's deep dish steel wheels, but they don't have the axle rod mounting stud on the backside:

 

Looks like your wheel has a much deeper hub bore, as well as a convex hub nut cap(?) detail, too.

[StevenGuthmiller]

Don't know for sure which kit these wheels came from, but I highly suspect that they are from a Johan kit.

I have a '63 Chrysler 300 molded in that exact color.

I'm pretty sure that they are not from the '63 Chrysler kit, but if I had to guess, I would say that they probably come from a later '64 Plymouth Fury or Dodge Polara kit.

Some of them were molded in this horrible color & they included racing & custom parts.

 

 

Steve

[1930fordpickup]

just a thought  but could these be chrome wheels that were stripped? You never know what is under the chrome until it comes off. 

[Draggon]

If the color in your pic doesn't exactly match the in-person color, I believe the wheels are from the AMT/Ertl '57 Ford. It came in a turquoise blue and has wheels with the post that look like yours. I've got the issue pictured below. I'm not sure which other issues have those wheels.

 

 

[Mark]

Don't know for sure which kit these wheels came from, but I highly suspect that they are from a Johan kit.

I have a '63 Chrysler 300 molded in that exact color.

I'm pretty sure that they are not from the '63 Chrysler kit, but if I had to guess, I would say that they probably come from a later '64 Plymouth Fury or Dodge Polara kit.

Some of them were molded in this horrible color & they included racing & custom parts.

 

 

Steve

The 98-cent stock-only '63 Chrysler convertible kit was molded in that dark green.  The '63 Chrysler customizing kits I have seen were molded in other colors, most often a pale yellow. 

[StevenGuthmiller]

The 98-cent stock-only '63 Chrysler convertible kit was molded in that dark green.  The '63 Chrysler customizing kits I have seen were molded in other colors, most often a pale yellow. 

As I said, I'm sure that they are not from the '63 Chrysler, but there were other Johan kits molded in this color.

I've seen '64 Plymouths &-or Dodges molded in these brighter colors.

The plastic was also thinner & more brittle than white or or some other colors.

 

Steve

[Mark]

2X on the AMT '57 Ford.  I've never seen one in turquoise, but the early Eighties AMT/Ertl issue was blue.  Possibly some of those came through in a slightly different color at some point.  Subsequent Ertl and RC2 issues were molded in gray.  

Early issues (pre-1971) with the Stylizing parts did not have those wheels.  The Seventies issues, and that blue AMT/Ertl issue, ditched the Stylizing parts and added a drag version; those kits have the wide rear wheels.  Ertl changed the optional parts around again in the early Nineties.  I'm pretty certain those wheels were deleted then; in fact, the Nineties revision eliminated all but a handful of the optional parts from the issues that came before it.

I'll say it once more...I can't recall ever seeing a Jo-Han kit with wheels that had axle bosses molded as part of the wheel like this one. 

[Snake45]

I'll say it once more...I can't recall ever seeing a Jo-Han kit with wheels that had axle bosses molded as part of the wheel like this one.

Now that you mention it, I don't believe I ever have, either.

Shame about the 90s issue of the '57 Ford. That's the one I have, and I don't think those wheels are in it.

I have a set of very similar (possibly identical) deep opens I almost used on my '65 Chevelle dragwagon. They're molded in light blue. I don't remember what kit I took them from, but I do remember the only kit in light blue that I've actually built was the AMT '72 Chevelle, '80s release. Did open wheels come in that?

[Mark]

No open wheels in any of the '68-'72 Chevelles that I remember, including the annuals.  The light blue open wheels could be from a '58 Impala or '59 El Camino (both of those were molded in a very light blue by Ertl).  I'd have to check to be 100% sure, but I believe the El Camino wheels didn't have the axle boss on the back.  The Impala wheels probably didn't either.  The AMT '32 Ford coupe (except for the first two issues) has four pretty deep wheels like that too, with axle bosses, but that one was never molded in blue as far as I know.

['70 Grande]

Well, thanks to your posts above as they all helped me refine my search for the 1/25 kit that had these deep-dished wheels in it.   My search had me going thru several of my older AMT kits, and I found a match for these deep-dish wheels inside the AMT/Ertl 1956 Ford Fairlane Victoria kit; these are a match to the rear drag wheels from that kit.   I don't know if this particular pair molded in this Turquoise styrene came from a '56 Ford Fairlane Victoria that was molded in that color or not, but style-wise and tooling-wise, they are a match.

Thanks for all of your input!