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I've built a ton of these. Not as many as Lyle Willets, mind you, but over 20.

Anyway, here's my thoughts. They are similar to a few sentiments already expressed. Whatever body style is chosen, please add parts to make the suspension more "traditional" i.e.- beam axle up front and buggy sprung rear. and split bones all around. As long as they are made adaptable to the other versions of the tool you will sell even more of them for kitbashing.

Lets look at the body styles, outside of what Revell has done with this tool already, available from the aftermarket(with the best supplier listed IMHO)

B400- Jimmy Flintstone (I keep looking at it and something seems off, but I could be wrong)

Sedan Delivery- Replicas and Miniatures of Md

Sport Coupe- Replicas and Miniatures of Md

Closed cab pickup- Replicas and Miniatures of Md

Roadster pickup- Altered States

Vicky- Replicas and Miniatures of Md

Cabriolet- Replicas and Miniatures of Md

4 Door Sedan- Star Models

Woody- Jimmy Flintstone

Phaeton- None available. I have done a master, but the caster I sent it to has decided to leave the business, so I guess I should see if anyone else is interested.

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Most likely is we will see the Stacey David Rat Roaster reissued under a different name with maybe some changes to make it generic. 

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A B-400 would be really cool for the stock builders, but I don't see much market for a Convertible Sedan for the hot rod builders. The Victoria has been done by AMT, although the tooling is really old, it is a current issue. A Woody, Pickup, or Phaeton could a real winner, could probably be done rather easily by combining the tooling from the existing "A" and "B" kits. But, all that being said, if Revell wants to make a kit that stands out they could make a '33 or '35 by doing the same thing. The '33 was only done once (AMT did a pretty lame street rod Two Door Sedan in the '80s that was a one-time issue), the '35 was only done by Danbury Mint, has never been done in kit form.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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A 33 or 35 would require completely new tooling. Different wheelbases, completely different frame for 35. Not that I wouldn't mind seeing either one as long as there was a stock version. Basically zero interest in hot rod or custom versions. Glad to see that the hot rod versions are selling well for Revell, since that may give them enough income to occasionally throw us replica stock builders a crumb.

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Yeah, gonna have to throw the photoshop flag at that one, but it would be a pretty cool phantom.

I can be evil sometimes. Guilty as charged, it is the Sidney Allen Victoria that was in HotRod and other mags, snagged the original side view from this page. Cut the upper rear part of the roof and some of the foliage in my obsolete CorelDraw program and pasted it right back in place, and then used the skew tool to make it more of a parallelogram. Then I plopped the same back edge of the roof down to make the trunk. At first I thought I'd say that the bustleback Milner rod in American Graffiti is a version I'd like to see ..... but then everybody would have accused me of living in the alternative reality I'm in right off the bat. =)

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I can be evil sometimes. Guilty as charged, it is the Sidney Allen Victoria that was in HotRod and other mags, snagged the original side view from this page.

To your credit, you did a pretty good job. Though my opinion was it was doctored, I had to look pretty close to find the provable evidence on the car. B)

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...had to look pretty close to find the provable evidence on the car. B)

Thanks! The giveaway in the 1st alteration is the way the highlights in the trunk area are identical to the highlights in the back of the roof. Spotted one big line glitch in the Milner rod, so I fixed that and did away with the beltline doing its downward curve at the rear. Still other photoalteration evidence in it, though.

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A closed cab pickup would be awesome and would open up a bunch of possible build variations. 

To echo what others have said, whatever body style is chosen, Revell please make it a buggy sprung suspension with hairpins and a dropped I beam axle in the front (not a dropped tube and four bars like all of the other deuce kits) and a quick change rear end in the back instead of another nine inch differential.

For goodness sake forget about that small block ford engine. Give us a couple of vintage engine choices. A full dress flathead or better yet a S.C.O.T. blown Ardun, an early OHV Cadillac, an Oldsmobile J2 or a Ford Y block engine. Give us some hot rod engine options that have not been kitted over and over. If a flathead is included in the kit, give us some more exotic engine parts that have never been tooled such as an intake with 4 stromberg carbs,  and a set of Kong, Eddie Myer or Elco Twin dual plug heads with a dual coil mount and proper distributor to match. 

A traditional hot rod needs a set of wheels and tires to match the vibe of the rest of the car. A set of tall skinny big and little bias ply firestone tires in 16/18 inch dia. Mount those tires to a set of  steel milk truck wheels or halibrand solid wheels. Or even a set of properly tooled Kelsey-Hayes bent spoke wire wheels. 

It is high time for a correct traditional hot rod to be tooled and released. Do it right and make the new tooled parts play nice with the existing deuce kits and a lot of kits will most likely be sold just as parts donors. Issue a 1932 Ford truck with any combination of the parts that I listed above and I will step up and buy the first two cases made for public sale. I might even build one right out of the box. ?

Just my two cents. I'll shut up now.☺

Edited by Toner283
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I like the idea of a few oddball speed parts.  It's certainly not the first time it's been done, it's certainly a big draw for the people who want them, and it's not like it's a deal breaker for the people who don't. 

If you do want t put a unique spin on a flathead, how about the '42 version with the crab style distributor?  It seems to be a popular option in traditional circles, and I can't recall ever seeing it in kit form.  Alternatively, how about a nicely detailed  first generation flathead for people wanting to build something closer to stock?

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While we're talking beam axles, quick changes and alternative engines, how 'bout a new frame that interchanges completely with the existing frame to put them in...  The engine mounts in the current frame for the Ford are located where they block center dump exhaust manifolds inside the chassis.  The engine mounts have to be moved to put a small block Chevy in the frame with a hood.

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Chris Tone makes a lot of GREAT points here . I agree with the Suspension and engine choices as I have had my fill of Aluminum Billit  ad state of the art underpinnings . Course I want parts to build a worn out stocker

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I'd go for either, especially the B400. And my ongoing forever (well since the first one came out) whine-- a STOCK version.

Jimmy Flintstone used to offer the B400 body, and it may still be available in his lineup. You'll have to check his website if you're interested.

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Thanks for the info. Tend to shy away from resin, plus still would need lots of things to do a stock one. The AMT is not very good on some things and downright incorrect on others.

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What's next, what's next? I hope for a Vicky. But then again I side with the ones who suggest a variety of the rat roaster will be next. I for me, don't really mind the injected windsor 302. If anything I could see it replaced with the newer modular OHC V8, but that's just me. - Not likely to happen. 

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